BholeTransfer wrote: Evvyperk wrote:
FSK wrote:We broke the numbers down in another thread here based on the 509 data. GW was accepting kids from American who had median grades. What a joke.
This is absolutely correct. Word on the street is that the problem with GW Law's practice isn't that they are raiding American's class for the best students. In fact, American's best students tend to stay at American because of scholarships and other inducements. It's that GW is taking a relatively small 1L class to achieve high GPA and LSAT targets to artificially pump up their US NEWS ranking.
Then they take an enormous number of American transfer students with mediocre credentials from the bottom and middle of American's class. GW does this to subsidize their 1L selectivity. For GW Law students going from 1L to 2L, though, this is a bit of an unfair trick since the law school they were "promised" by the US News rank and published credentials becomes a very, very different school after 1L. GW students are right to be upset about this and American transfers to GW may end up with the short end of the stick.
While I agree that GW's transfer practice is shitty for a number of reasons, the bold sentence is just wrong. GW takes one of the biggest classes in the country, taking 450+. However, this actually makes what you are saying even worse - an already large class at a law school whose rank is falling inflates its bottom line with median students' tuition. It's unfair to the current students and to transfers
I agree with you, BholeTransfer. I must have been unclear. I meant that GW takes a small and highly credentialed 1L class, relative to the 2L classes and beyond at GW. (The 2L and 3L classes, with the enormous number of transfers, are ginormous by comparison.) I agree with everything you wrote. It absolutely is unfair to current students and transfers alike. Its USNWR rank tells one story, but the average credentials of the 2L and 3L classes tells quite a different story, especially when you consider that it sounds like the 1L GPAs, LSATs, college GPAs and other credentials of the inbound GW transfers are nowhere near those of the 1Ls. They are more mediocre on average and this is not that big of a secret at GW. The "we only take the cream of the crop" line out of the admissions office simply is not true. I knew of one inbound GW Law transfer, for example, who averaged around a 2.9 or 3.0 at American. "Cream of the crop?"