Desert Fox wrote: TrialLawyer16 wrote: Desert Fox wrote:
Then stop claiming that its helping anyone. You and IAFG are just taking the opposite sides of the either/or, the point is that you have to concede one of the two being true.
Just because the firms won't care the school weeds out Xfers, doesn't mean having all your students get a higher rank doesn't help. There is a psychological effect of the higher rank. And firms just won't care that it changes a bit because some students xfer.
Not sure you're getting what he's trying to say. He's saying, for example:
#1 student at W&L (example) transfers to NU
You're Top 25% at NU
Former #12 at W&L becomes #1 (completely hypo, of course, but possible)
BigLaw A has two spots left. The NU transfer uses his #1 standing at W&L to snag BigLaw A, and the former #12 at W&L uses his new standing as #1 to snag the same job that would have actually gone to you if he was still ranked #12, leaving you (Top 25% at NU) holding the bag. Is that fair?
Again completely hypo and possibly not extremely likely, but this is what beastlenoise is trying to say and it seems possible. And if firms actually do factor in rank in their hiring decisions, I think it's a fair point.
The major problem here is that you are expecting the W&L to try to be fair towards other schools students. They can (and probably have a duty) to help their students out. You are basically arguing that anything another schools does to help their students get jobs is unfair to everyone else. I don't buy it. Your reason is exactly WHY W&L should be doing this.
Nobody is bitching that NU top 25% is probably a 3.6, where at other schools 3.6 is way higher. Our schools already assfucking the rest of you by not ranking and grade inflating.
Hell after graduation a 3.6 is BELOW median at NU. Lol
No, I don't expect W&L to try to be fair towards other schools' students. I'm just speaking to what's fair to students in general, and really whether this practice should even be allowed. I bet if you found out you were that student at NU and somehow you found out the only reason you lost that job at your dream firm, even if you got another one, is because you had to compete against two #1's at a certain school instead of a #1 and #12,you'd feel differently way about this issue. No doubt, the school doing this is helping their current (2L) students out, but that's not the point to me.
Desert Fox wrote:You are basically arguing that anything another schools does to help their students get jobs is unfair to everyone else.
I'm pretty sure you know this is a straw man.
And the issue of a 3.6 at NU shouldn't even matter, either. The real question is whether firms actually value class rank more, which I'm imagining (but don't know for sure) they do since schools have different grading tendencies.
Side note: I don't go to W&L.. your school is not "assfukking" mine lol. NU's a great school and all, but let's pump the brakes