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psach44
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Postby psach44 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:21 pm

Any advice on what to do with OCI bidding if one transfers?

In other words, if your current school is setting you up, how do you insure opportunities at the new school if OCI has already begun there before you get there?

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Re: OCI

Postby jbiresq » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:45 am

psach44 wrote:Any advice on what to do with OCI bidding if one transfers?

In other words, if your current school is setting you up, how do you ensure opportunities at the new school if OCI has already begun there before you get there?


Are you asking about double-dipping? That's generally frowned upon and can get you into quite a bit of trouble if a school finds out. For obvious reasons schools are very protective of their OCI slots and don't want someone interviewing with a firm there and then not actually enrolling the next year.

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Re: OCI

Postby TTRansfer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:09 am

If you CAN double dip, you do it. Most schools will not let you.

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Re: OCI

Postby psach44 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:15 am

Understood. I would not double dip if that was immoral. My question really is, if one transfers to a T14 from a TTT, does the T14 take care of the transfer and help with OCI bidding on their campuses?

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Re: OCI

Postby stuckinthemiddle » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:54 am

Depends on the school. In places like Cornell, transfers aren't allowed to participate.

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Re: OCI

Postby Uncle.Joe » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:36 pm

I'm still not sure what your asking.

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Re: OCI

Postby psach44 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:46 pm

Uncle Joe-

I am asking: If I transfer, how do I secure interviews with firms at my transfer school's OCI?

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Re: OCI

Postby bk1 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:48 pm

psach44 wrote:Uncle Joe-

I am asking: If I transfer, how do I secure interviews with firms at my transfer school's OCI?

Your new school should set you up, assuming they allow transfers to participate in OCI. Some schools don't allow transfers to participate in OCI (e.g. Cornell iirc).

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Re: OCI

Postby psach44 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:01 pm

If some schools don't allow for a transfer to participate in OCI, then isn't transferring extremely imprudent?

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Re: OCI

Postby stillwater » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:06 pm

psach44 wrote:If some schools don't allow for a transfer to participate in OCI, then isn't transferring extremely imprudent?


uh, ya

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Re: OCI

Postby bk1 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:06 pm

psach44 wrote:If some schools don't allow for a transfer to participate in OCI, then isn't transferring extremely imprudent?

Well if you weren't going to get anything from OCI at your old school and were paying sticker there anyways, there isn't much loss. Though it's probably better to transfer to a peer school that does let you do OCI. Even if you can't do OCI, you can still mass mail with your new school on your resume.

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Re: OCI

Postby jbiresq » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:10 pm

psach44 wrote:Uncle Joe-

I am asking: If I transfer, how do I secure interviews with firms at my transfer school's OCI?


This is basically the reason everyone transfers. Almost every school, save for Fordham and Cornell, will allow you to full participate in OCI. You get your acceptance at least a couple of weeks before bidding begins, which is ample time to do mock interviews/meet the office/get a good bidlist straightened out.

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Re: OCI

Postby TTRansfer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:22 pm

psach44 wrote:Understood. I would not double dip if that was immoral. My question really is, if one transfers to a T14 from a TTT, does the T14 take care of the transfer and help with OCI bidding on their campuses?


Of course it's "immoral." You are "robbing" your old school and classmates of interviews. But this should be all about you. Period. This is your career. If you can double dip, you should do it. There is simply no reason not to other than some misplaced sense of loyalty to your old school.

If you can't double dip, then just send in your resume, etc. to the employers prior to when they are do for the old school's OCI. Try and get the jump. But seriously -- if you can double dip, don't waste that opportunity.

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Re: OCI

Postby Uncle.Joe » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:19 pm

I don't have an issue with double dipping particularly if you go to a school that is 100% preselect

This has been said already, but OP the career services office will give you the info to prepare a bidlist. Depending on when you commit you might have a really small window for finalizing your list and its unlikely that CSO will be give you much help with it. Don't transfer to a school that doesn't let you participate in OCI, I still can't fathom why Cornell/Fordham have any transfers at all.

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Re: OCI

Postby TTRansfer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:37 pm

Uncle.Joe wrote:I don't have an issue with double dipping particularly if you go to a school that is 100% preselect

This has been said already, but OP the career services office will give you the info to prepare a bidlist. Depending on when you commit you might have a really small window for finalizing your list and its unlikely that CSO will be give you much help with it. Don't transfer to a school that doesn't let you participate in OCI, I still can't fathom why Cornell/Fordham have any transfers at all.


I don't believe Cornell explicitly bans transfers from OCI. They are just late in the game in giving out acceptances, as far as I know, so most transfer students miss the deadline for bids.

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Re: OCI

Postby psach44 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:45 pm

Thanks for the responses, all.

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Re: OCI

Postby kryptix » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:59 pm

TTRansfer wrote:
Uncle.Joe wrote:I don't have an issue with double dipping particularly if you go to a school that is 100% preselect

This has been said already, but OP the career services office will give you the info to prepare a bidlist. Depending on when you commit you might have a really small window for finalizing your list and its unlikely that CSO will be give you much help with it. Don't transfer to a school that doesn't let you participate in OCI, I still can't fathom why Cornell/Fordham have any transfers at all.


I don't believe Cornell explicitly bans transfers from OCI. They are just late in the game in giving out acceptances, as far as I know, so most transfer students miss the deadline for bids.


Pretty sure this is the case for Fordham too, because I remember transfers interviewing during OCI but they weren't in the lottery. Fordham's policy is that you are allowed to approach any interviewer during their breaks and before/after their day starts so you can get interviews without being on the schedule. You can also schedule your own interviews independently of the bid system because you find out who the interviewers are a few days in advance so you can basically cold call them to set up a slot.

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Re: OCI

Postby jbiresq » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:07 pm

TTRansfer wrote:
psach44 wrote:Understood. I would not double dip if that was immoral. My question really is, if one transfers to a T14 from a TTT, does the T14 take care of the transfer and help with OCI bidding on their campuses?


Of course it's "immoral." You are "robbing" your old school and classmates of interviews. But this should be all about you. Period. This is your career. If you can double dip, you should do it. There is simply no reason not to other than some misplaced sense of loyalty to your old school.

If you can't double dip, then just send in your resume, etc. to the employers prior to when they are do for the old school's OCI. Try and get the jump. But seriously -- if you can double dip, don't waste that opportunity.


I don't think it's "immoral," but it can cause a lot of unnecessary annoyance if you get caught. Schools are very protective of their OCI slots. For instance, someone I know wanted to interview with a firm that was only coming to another school's OCI, so the firm added him to their schedule. That school got really pissed that someone from another school was interviewing at their OCI and called our Career Services Dean to complain.




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