7 Sections - 1 curve?

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oiuiuko
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7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby oiuiuko » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:45 am

My school divides 1Ls into 7 different sections. When reviewing transfer apps, will schools consider my rank relative to my section, or relative to the entire 1L class (all 7 sections combined)?

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby buddingjd » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:51 am

Entire class. Don't go into law school intending to transfer.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby quiver » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:57 am

TLS wrote:This forum is for current law students seeking advice on applying to transfer from one law school to another. As such, the following rules are hereby in place:

1) 0Ls should not be posting questions here.

If you're a 0L who wants advice about anything from current law students, including how transferring works, then you want to go to this forum set up just for you: viewforum.php?f=4

0Ls are welcome to be here, to read and to make appropriate comments, but read note #3 below before you comment.

2) 1Ls (and 0Ls!), do not ask about transfer odds or possibilities before you have grades.

Asking for transfer advice before you have grades is a waste of everyone's time. There are two reasons for this.

The first is that 95% of transfer admissions is your 1L grades, and you can't predict in advance how well you're going to do. If you intend to transfer up a tier, you're going to need to do very well your first year, probably top 10% or better. The problem is, everyone is going to be trying to be in the top 10% of their class their first year, and if 100% of the class is trying to be in the top 10%, 90% will be disappointed. And since there's no way to know how well you can do until you actually get grades, nobody can help you figure out your chances of transferring without at least some grades.

The second is that you make real sacrifices when you transfer, and it's not something you should be planning on less than a semester into law school. You leave behind connections with professors and opportunities such as LR at your old school. If you're asking about transferring before you have grades back, it suggests you're just planning to transfer no matter what, which is dumb. This is the advice you'll get if you start seeking transfer advice before you get any grades back.

If you're merely curious about what transfer possibilities are available for those who do really well at your school, you can read through old threads here to see how people did in previous cycles, or go search for the Yahoo! group "transferapps" and read through their material. Or read Arrow's excellent guide to transferring, available here: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=82937

But do not start new threads about transfer chances before you have grades. Those are a waste of everyone's time.

3) Please don't attempt to give transfer advice if you haven't been through 1L year yet.

As a general rule, if you have to preface your statement with "I'm a 0L, but..." that's probably a good sign you simply shouldn't say it. The same is true for 1Ls who haven't gotten grades back or who haven't been through the transfer process. Unless you're sure you know something, please assume you don't. Otherwise, you'll just end up irritating people with statements that seem okay to you but are obviously wrong to people who know the process. If you continually give bad advice here, you may be assumed to be trolling and banned accordingly.

I think that about covers it. Paying attention to this sticky will help you avoid a lot of drama, negative reputation, and banning. Not paying attention to this sticky could result in timeouts or bans. It's your choice.



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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby InnocuousDiatribe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:41 pm

buddingjd wrote:Entire class. Don't go into law school intending to transfer.

Yup. The transfer process is arbitrary as shit. You MAY have great numbers at the end of your first year and still get diddly--then you'll be stuck at a school you don't want to be at. Bad news bears.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby oiuiuko » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:33 pm

Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:40 pm

oiuiuko wrote:Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

It might have something to do with you seriously considering the logistics of transferring before you start class as a law student.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby oiuiuko » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:05 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

It might have something to do with you seriously considering the logistics of transferring before you start class as a law student.


Yes, it definitely has something to do with the wording of my question. But is that an excuse for making assumptions and offering platitudes instead of just answering the question? Plz don't take offense, I do appreciate any and all feedback.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby Bildungsroman » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:56 am

oiuiuko wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

It might have something to do with you seriously considering the logistics of transferring before you start class as a law student.


Yes, it definitely has something to do with the wording of my question. But is that an excuse for making assumptions and offering platitudes instead of just answering the question? Plz don't take offense, I do appreciate any and all feedback.

You're in the transfer forum as a 0L. Creates a near-irrebuttable assumption that you're about to make a mistake.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby Gunna4Life » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:01 am

Bildungsroman wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

It might have something to do with you seriously considering the logistics of transferring before you start class as a law student.


Yes, it definitely has something to do with the wording of my question. But is that an excuse for making assumptions and offering platitudes instead of just answering the question? Plz don't take offense, I do appreciate any and all feedback.

You're in the transfer forum as a 0L. Creates a near-irrebuttable assumption that you're about to make a mistake.


I went TTTT and transferred into t14. Best decision of my life. Do you bro, do you.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby oiuiuko » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:00 am

Bildungsroman wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
oiuiuko wrote:Thanks for the pointers, guys. I appreciate it. I find it amusing how my question about the curve in relation to transferring prompted a knee-jerk response from people who leapt to the assumption that I'm going to a school with the intent to transfer.

It might have something to do with you seriously considering the logistics of transferring before you start class as a law student.


Yes, it definitely has something to do with the wording of my question. But is that an excuse for making assumptions and offering platitudes instead of just answering the question? Plz don't take offense, I do appreciate any and all feedback.

You're in the transfer forum as a 0L. Creates a near-irrebuttable assumption that you're about to make a mistake.



I see, so anybody asking about transfer applications before law school starts is going to make the mistake of starting 1L with the intent to transfer. I wonder if it's law school that makes people so rigid in their thinking, or if it's people who are rigid that are drawn to law school. Regardless, I value your feedback even though your reasoning is weak :)

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby quiver » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:58 am

oiuiuko wrote:I see, so anybody asking about transfer applications before law school starts is going to make the mistake of starting 1L with the intent to transfer. I wonder if it's law school that makes people so rigid in their thinking, or if it's people who are rigid that are drawn to law school. Regardless, I value your feedback even though your reasoning is weak
So you're at least curious about transferring before you start 1L? Put it out of your mind; transferring is not even a possibility for you right now. Your question was answered in the first reply so please leave this forum and come back when you have some 1L grades.

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby TTRansfer » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:09 pm

Transer per se

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Re: 7 Sections - 1 curve?

Postby TTRansfer » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:10 pm

oiuiuko wrote:I see, so anybody asking about transfer applications before law school starts is going to make the mistake of starting 1L with the intent to transfer. I wonder if it's law school that makes people so rigid in their thinking, or if it's people who are rigid that are drawn to law school. Regardless, I value your feedback even though your reasoning is weak :)


You have a 90-95% chance of not doing well enough to transfer. Focus on doing well and don't post on here until you have the grades.




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