Is GULC worth the transfer?

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arigoldwannabe
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Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:44 pm

Current School: #51
Rank: Top 3%

In at GULC. Waiting on CCN & H.

Goal: Biglaw in NYC/DC/FL.

Financial Situation: Will graduate current school with plenty in the bank. If I transfer, debt would be less than 50k, probably around 25k. Would rather make more $$$ than buy a house. The wife is paying living expenses.

I would prefer CCN or H (clearly), but is GULC worth it???

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby aca0260 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:54 pm

You'll likely get into somewhere higher.

But even if you didnt, you should be able to land something good in your current OCI. Do you not like the region your current school is in? Can it not get you one of the markets you seek?

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:02 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:Current School: #51
Rank: Top 3%

In at GULC. Waiting on CCN & H.

Goal: Biglaw in NYC/DC/FL.

Financial Situation: Will graduate current school with plenty in the bank. If I transfer, debt would be less than 50k, probably around 25k. Would rather make more $$$ than buy a house. The wife is paying living expenses.

I would prefer CCN or H (clearly), but is GULC worth it???


Thought I'd jump in here if ari doesn't mind, since this question has been running through my mind.

Current School: TTTT
Rank: Top 1%

In at GULC, waiting on Columbia, NYU, Mich, Berk, Cornell, Duke, NW, PENN

Finances: Graduate TTTT with 70k in debt. Graduate Gtown with 190K in debt. Want/dream to practice biglaw anywhere. I'm a gunner, love to work. No desire for a family within the next 20 years.

Is GULC worth it?

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:24 pm

aca0260 wrote:You'll likely get into somewhere higher.

But even if you didnt, you should be able to land something good in your current OCI. Do you not like the region your current school is in? Can it not get you one of the markets you seek?


Ya im hoping for Columbia or NYU.

My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

So, back to the original question, is GULC worth it? Is interviewing at median (or whatever transfers are considered) at GULC a huge gamble when my debt will be ~25k?

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:28 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:
aca0260 wrote:You'll likely get into somewhere higher.

But even if you didnt, you should be able to land something good in your current OCI. Do you not like the region your current school is in? Can it not get you one of the markets you seek?


Ya im hoping for Columbia or NYU.

My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

So, back to the original question, is GULC worth it? Is interviewing at median (or whatever transfers are considered) at GULC a huge gamble when my debt will be ~25k?



25k debt at a t14?..............
That is not a gamble. You should go if your current OCI cannot place you where you want to be with your numbers

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby CanadianWolf » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:31 pm

Georgetown should yield more options than FSU.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:33 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

If you're at a FL school you gotta realize that "big" firms in FL, and I mean market players, aren't 500+ and some of them aren't even NLJ250. Think Trenam, Hill Ward, Bush Ross, LDDKR, Gunster, Bilzin, etc. Those aren't small fish and are up there with the big dogs.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:39 pm

rad lulz wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

If you're at a FL school you gotta realize that "big" firms in FL, and I mean market players, aren't 500+ and some of them aren't even NLJ250. Think Trenam, Hill Ward, Bush Ross, LDDKR, Gunster, Bilzin, etc. Those aren't small fish and are up there with the big dogs.


Agreed, but firms like Bilzin dont interview here. Gunster does, but they interview at half the t-14 and take the floridians that went there. (GreyRobinson is similar).

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:39 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Georgetown should yield more options than FSU.


Cheater...

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby jessuf » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:40 pm

Ari - do you want to return to FL? Or are you and your wife ok with NYC?

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:45 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

If you're at a FL school you gotta realize that "big" firms in FL, and I mean market players, aren't 500+ and some of them aren't even NLJ250. Think Trenam, Hill Ward, Bush Ross, LDDKR, Gunster, Bilzin, etc. Those aren't small fish and are up there with the big dogs.


Agreed, but firms like Bilzin dont interview here. Gunster does, but they interview at half the t-14 and take the floridians that went there. (GreyRobinson is similar).

Yeah the FL firms do like people from T14/Vandy/Emory who want to come back.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:48 pm

rad lulz wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:My current OCI blows. I think 2% got firms of 501+ attorneys last year. The school is in my home market and i would be fine staying. However, my wife and I would like to experience a new place. I figure its much easier to lateral from NY/DC to my home market than the other way around.

If you're at a FL school you gotta realize that "big" firms in FL, and I mean market players, aren't 500+ and some of them aren't even NLJ250. Think Trenam, Hill Ward, Bush Ross, LDDKR, Gunster, Bilzin, etc. Those aren't small fish and are up there with the big dogs.


Agreed, but firms like Bilzin dont interview here. Gunster does, but they interview at half the t-14 and take the floridians that went there. (GreyRobinson is similar).

Yeah the FL firms do like people from T14/Vandy/Emory who want to come back.


I would too. Even a great firm like Stearns Weaver that was started by FSU grad (Stearns) is filled with T-10.
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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:51 pm

Jessuf wrote:Ari - do you want to return to FL? Or are you and your wife ok with NYC?


We would be very happy with NYC and realize that would be the most probable location post-grad. We are all about exploring new places and an adventure. lol. I will bid the "elite" florida firms that dont interview at my school.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby TFR » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:52 pm

I am in a similar situation, with lower stats T2 5-6%, my school places around the same, and I am thinking it is not worth the extra price, giving up a scholly and LR. Waiting on CNPM. If they accepted you so fast with an early deadline, you will get better schools.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby jessuf » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:56 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:
Jessuf wrote:Ari - do you want to return to FL? Or are you and your wife ok with NYC?


We would be very happy with NYC and realize that would be the most probable location post-grad. We are all about exploring new places and an adventure. lol. I will bid the "elite" florida firms that dont interview at my school.


Not very many FL offices to bid on at GULC's OCI. Do you have access to that? There's Akerman Senterfitt, Baker Hostetler, Boies, Foley & Lardner, Gunster, Hogan Lovells, Holland & Knight, Hunton & Williams, K&L Gates, McDermott, Morgan Lewis, Squire Sanders, Weil, and White & Case. However, a lot of those offices will have tiny (1-2) SA classes. Make sure you get on the mass mailing.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:58 pm

Jessuf wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:
Jessuf wrote:Ari - do you want to return to FL? Or are you and your wife ok with NYC?


We would be very happy with NYC and realize that would be the most probable location post-grad. We are all about exploring new places and an adventure. lol. I will bid the "elite" florida firms that dont interview at my school.


Not very many FL offices to bid on at GULC's OCI. Do you have access to that? There's Akerman Senterfitt, Baker Hostetler, Boies, Foley & Lardner, Gunster, Hogan Lovells, Holland & Knight, Hunton & Williams, K&L Gates, McDermott, Morgan Lewis, Squire Sanders, Weil, and White & Case. However, a lot of those offices will have tiny (1-2) SA classes. Make sure you get on the mass mailing.


Thanks for that list. I would DEFINITELY not be making the move to get a SA position in FL. I think that would be stupid. However, I would use some bids on them.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby jessuf » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:01 pm

arigoldwannabe wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
arigoldwannabe wrote:
Jessuf wrote:Ari - do you want to return to FL? Or are you and your wife ok with NYC?


We would be very happy with NYC and realize that would be the most probable location post-grad. We are all about exploring new places and an adventure. lol. I will bid the "elite" florida firms that dont interview at my school.


Not very many FL offices to bid on at GULC's OCI. Do you have access to that? There's Akerman Senterfitt, Baker Hostetler, Boies, Foley & Lardner, Gunster, Hogan Lovells, Holland & Knight, Hunton & Williams, K&L Gates, McDermott, Morgan Lewis, Squire Sanders, Weil, and White & Case. However, a lot of those offices will have tiny (1-2) SA classes. Make sure you get on the mass mailing.


Thanks for that list. I would DEFINITELY not be making the move to get a SA position in FL. I think that would be stupid. However, I would use some bids on them.


My CSO kept pushing me to bid tons of FL offices because of my ties, but I do NOT want to return to FL. Plus some of the salaries are pretty dismal, even for the big firms.

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Re: Is GULC worth the transfer?

Postby arigoldwannabe » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:06 pm

Anyone with GULC specific knowledge care to participate?




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