Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby jessuf » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:32 pm

aca0260 wrote:So I figured. GULC seems to punish those applying from schools with lower curves. 3.77 at my school is top 2%


3.77 at my school is top 1%, but my school has a 3.0 median. I thought that was pretty standard outside of T14?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby crossarmant » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:09 pm

transferfromut wrote:Is GT law preppy?

Is water wet?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:46 pm

My t4 school has a first year curve of 2.4-2.55. Brutal! Majority of people obviously don't put their GPA on their resumes.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby opX » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:09 pm

crossarmant wrote:
aca0260 wrote:So I figured. GULC seems to punish those applying from schools with lower curves. 3.77 at my school is top 2%

Seconded. Frustrating having a lower curve than other places.


agreed. same with my school.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby keg411 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:34 pm

opX wrote:
crossarmant wrote:
aca0260 wrote:So I figured. GULC seems to punish those applying from schools with lower curves. 3.77 at my school is top 2%

Seconded. Frustrating having a lower curve than other places.


agreed. same with my school.


Except the curve definitely is nowhere near low at crossarmant's school, it's just more spread out. You need to be at like a 3.9+ there to be top 1-2%, and the median is about a 3.0-3.1. The new curve didn't really change things that much.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby opX » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:38 pm

keg411 wrote:
opX wrote:
crossarmant wrote:
aca0260 wrote:So I figured. GULC seems to punish those applying from schools with lower curves. 3.77 at my school is top 2%

Seconded. Frustrating having a lower curve than other places.


agreed. same with my school.


Except the curve definitely is nowhere near low at crossarmant's school, it's just more spread out. You need to be at like a 3.9+ there to be top 1-2%, and the median is about a 3.0-3.1. The new curve didn't really change things that much.


friend has less than 20% of his class at a 3.3. median is about 2.8

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby keg411 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:39 pm

opX wrote:less than 20% of my class has a 3.3. median is about 2.8


THAT is a low curve. Crossarmant's whining was for no reason.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby transferfromut » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:35 pm

crossarmant wrote:
transferfromut wrote:Is GT law preppy?

Is water wet?


compare to Vandy?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby jd1969a » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:46 pm

Jessuf wrote:
aca0260 wrote:So I figured. GULC seems to punish those applying from schools with lower curves. 3.77 at my school is top 2%


3.77 at my school is top 1%, but my school has a 3.0 median. I thought that was pretty standard outside of T14?


We curve to 3.25. I think that's pretty high compared to most schools in our range.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby crossarmant » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:19 am

keg411 wrote:
opX wrote:less than 20% of my class has a 3.3. median is about 2.8


THAT is a low curve. Crossarmant's whining was for no reason.

No, it's not as rough as some other places, but a 3.7 is 5% cutoff here; so to be at 10% with a 3.77... yeah, it's a bit of a better curve.

But I can agree, its got to be frustrating coming from a school with a 2.0 median, being near the top of your class and still only having like a 3.2. Makes me wonder what these schools are trying to achieve.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby MidAtlantic » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:36 pm

Fellow Waitlisters,

Looking at message boards from older cycles (2009, maybe '10) there seemed to be a preferred AND a regular waiting list for GULC transfer hopefuls.

Is that not the case this time around? My WL email said "we hope to have more information for you by late August." Did any other Waitlister's email say something different?

Any other thoughts?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby mileslibertatis » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:40 pm

Mine said the same...

Dear Not Good Enough and/or Too Good for Us:

The Committee on Admissions has considered your application for transfer and has placed your name on our Waiting List.

The Waiting List is comprised of competitive candidates whom we would like to include in our second year class if space permits. Please e-mail us at admis@law.georgetown.edu to let us know if you are interested in remaining on the Waiting List and to notify us of any deadlines you may be facing. Please be advised that applicants on the Waiting List are not ranked. If you wish to provide supplemental materials for your file, you may forward them to our office.

Please note that if spaces do become available, there will be a short time frame for you to make your enrollment decision. Thus, if you intend to apply for financial aid to help finance your law school costs, you should complete the FAFSA/Need Access forms as soon as possible. Information on applying for aid is available at http://www.law.georgetown.edu/finaid. Completing aid materials earlier will facilitate your aid evaluation and minimize delays in your receipt of your award notice.

We hope that we will have more news for you by late August. Thank you for your interest in Georgetown University Law Center.

Sincerely,


Emphasis mine...

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby lnllnl » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:30 pm

mileslibertatis wrote:Mine said the same...

Dear Not Good Enough and/or Too Good for Us:

The Committee on Admissions has considered your application for transfer and has placed your name on our Waiting List.

The Waiting List is comprised of competitive candidates whom we would like to include in our second year class if space permits. Please e-mail us at admis@law.georgetown.edu to let us know if you are interested in remaining on the Waiting List and to notify us of any deadlines you may be facing. Please be advised that applicants on the Waiting List are not ranked. If you wish to provide supplemental materials for your file, you may forward them to our office.

Please note that if spaces do become available, there will be a short time frame for you to make your enrollment decision. Thus, if you intend to apply for financial aid to help finance your law school costs, you should complete the FAFSA/Need Access forms as soon as possible. Information on applying for aid is available at http://www.law.georgetown.edu/finaid. Completing aid materials earlier will facilitate your aid evaluation and minimize delays in your receipt of your award notice.

We hope that we will have more news for you by late August. Thank you for your interest in Georgetown University Law Center.

Sincerely,


Emphasis mine...


Damn, that sucks. But with you're numbers, you'll get into bigger and better places.

Here's to hoping the lack of FT slots is because a lot of their own PT people switched to FT, which may give me a shot at PT.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby opX » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:18 am

keg411 wrote:
opX wrote:less than 20% of my class has a 3.3. median is about 2.8


THAT is a low curve. Crossarmant's whining was for no reason.


Thank you. Im glad im not crazy. School tried to tell me that was "normal."

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby tink1 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:53 am

Is anyone that's wait listed planning on trying to do the write on comp? The last day to buy the packet is Wed.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby MidAtlantic » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:22 am

Thinking about it, too....

I emailed OJA, and they told me that if you did participate in write on, but not admitted to Gtown before Aug. 6th, then not only are you ineligible for journal this year, but then you can't participate in the 2013 Transfer Write-On either (which would let you be on a journal for your 3L year).

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby mileslibertatis » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:24 am

Lame. Does GT have a publishable notes deal, or secondary journals that are worth anything?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby lnllnl » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:02 pm

Status checker just got updated today, 7/6. *fingers crossed* C'mon, at least waitlist me!

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby jessuf » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:10 pm

mileslibertatis wrote:Lame. Does GT have a publishable notes deal, or secondary journals that are worth anything?


Some of the secondary journals guarantee publishing. I know the Journal of Legal Ethics does. I think there's like a 1% chance someone will get onto flagship law review, so I didn't research them much but I bet the probability of getting published on flagship is around 1% too.

Also, I can't really talk about the specifics of the write-on, but I spent a total of about 16 hours on bluebook + reading + writing (to help you guys gauge if it's worth the time). I'm sure other people spend more time, but I have an internship where I'm gone until 6:30pm.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby LawStudent4567 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:17 pm

Waitlisted as of today. TTT Top 3%. Any idea how many people got waitlisted from last year and actually got in?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby jessuf » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:22 pm

I can understand denying people, but I don't get the point of WLing people, especially people with good numbers. Isn't the transfer process a cash cow for schools?

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby lnllnl » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:25 pm

Also got the waitlist email today (same email as mileslibertatis)

TTTT 3.6x (2.3-2.6 Median), No rank, in DC right now, military background, PT, 5 yrs W/E

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby Mce252 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:31 pm

Any waitlisted applicants seen any updates? I think they let a few in around this time last year.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby lnllnl » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:36 pm

Mce252 wrote:Any waitlisted applicants seen any updates? I think they let a few in around this time last year.


Hopefully people who dropped deposits but got into better schools have been withdrawing.

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Re: Georgetown RD Applicants Fall 2012

Postby gdizz01 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:55 pm

I'm just dropping in to vent my frustration. I was admitted 7/3 (by e-mail), and given until 7/13 to make my decision. I would take Gtown over my current school, but don't think it's worth withdrawing my Columbia/NYU/Penn apps...nor do I have $800 to donate to the university for fun, so it looks like another spot will be opening up for you WLer's!

Just my $.02 on their process- I think they're just trying to churn-and-burn applicants, forcing people to either cough up cash or let the next person step up who may be willing to cough up cash, and so forth. It's obviously a calculated move that they require RD applicants to commit long before anyone would hear back from any other school: they deliberately create exactly the predicament I feel I'm in now, and charge $800 for the gamble (and $40 for the journal packet...is that normal?? Shouldn't that be part of tuition? Do non-transfers have to pay for their journal packets? At least no one had to at my current school). Anyway, all of this upfront expense already has me feeling like the cash cow/second class citizen I don't hope to feel like at my transfer institution, so I'm becoming somewhat disenchanted by Gtown. Anyway, I'm sure that a lot of people that have better horses int he race and have been cornered like this will withdraw, and there will be a big wave of admits off the waitlist next week. Here's to hoping that all our dreams come true! :D

Oh yeah and if it matters to anyone that's keeping track, I'm T30 top 4-5% or so.




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