Transferring from cooley

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AffordablePrep
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Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:38 pm

So i have an old friend who called for help transferring. He has hopes of a TTT or TTTT transfer out of state. He constantly speaks of how challenging Cooley is, and how most fail out. He seems to think he has good odds, being top 40 percent of his class at cooley. Obviously the school's misinformed him about his success, but he won't listen when i put it gently as to not hurt his feelings, much like how he ignored my retake advise. Is he at all correct? If he was your friend would u be more blunt? He's not a close friemd-just someone i grew up with, who is very sensitive and aggressive--prob wouldn't be his friend if we didn't grow up together, but do care about him.

t14fanboy
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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby t14fanboy » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:42 pm

But Cooley's the most prestigious school in the country.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby indo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:48 pm

t14fanboy wrote:But Cooley's the most prestigious school in the country.



NO, You are so wrong.

Its the best in the World lol

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby Younger Abstention » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:51 pm

Not sure why you think he has no chance. You severely overestimate the competitiveness of transferring to a TTT school.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:51 pm

You laugh about it, but the students believe it's strong. They'll concede it's 4th tier but will argue it's the most competitive 4th tier, perhaps most competitive non-tier 1 in the country. Obviously the school has convinced them of this. My friend is emotional and speaks poor English, but he's not an idiot.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:52 pm

Younger Abstention wrote:Not sure why you think he has no chance. You severely overestimate the competitiveness of transferring to a TTT school.

Top 40 percent is enough? I know top 10 to top 3 requires top 10 or 20 percent so i figured going up a tier from the lowest school in america requires more than top 40?

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby indo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:53 pm

AffordablePrep wrote:You laugh about it, but the students believe it's strong. They'll concede it's 4th tier but will argue it's the most competitive 4th tier, perhaps most competitive non-tier 1 in the country. Obviously the school has convinced them of this. My friend is emotional and speaks poor English, but he's not an idiot.



Are you sure ? lol

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby Younger Abstention » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:54 pm

AffordablePrep wrote:
Younger Abstention wrote:Not sure why you think he has no chance. You severely overestimate the competitiveness of transferring to a TTT school.

Top 40 percent is enough? I know top 10 to top 3 requires top 10 or 20 percent so i figured going up a tier from the lowest school in america requires more than top 40?


I don't think that's a logical extrapolation. Top 3 schools are extremely sought after (even by top 10 students), whereas much lower ranked schools are not.
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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:55 pm

indo wrote:
AffordablePrep wrote:You laugh about it, but the students believe it's strong. They'll concede it's 4th tier but will argue it's the most competitive 4th tier, perhaps most competitive non-tier 1 in the country. Obviously the school has convinced them of this. My friend is emotional and speaks poor English, but he's not an idiot.



Are you sure ? lol

I've met dumber. Honestly, I've tutored much dumber individuals that got into TT, people with 900/1600 sat scores.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:56 pm

Younger Abstention wrote:
AffordablePrep wrote:
Younger Abstention wrote:Not sure why you think he has no chance. You severely overestimate the competitiveness of transferring to a TTT school.

Top 40 percent is enough? I know top 10 to top 3 requires top 10 or 20 percent so i figured going up a tier from the lowest school in america requires more than top 40?


I don't think that's a logical extrapolation. Top 3 schools are extremely sought after (even by top 10 students), whereas much lower ranked schools are not.

You're right, but certainly some people apply?

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby Cornellanister » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:56 pm

He can always try. This sorta sounds like a flame tbh.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby sunynp » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:57 pm

He isn't going anywhere from top 40%.

Honestly I would do whatever saves me the most aggravation. If he ignored your retake advice, he is going to ignore whatever you tell him now. You need to do whatever is going to make it easier for you. I would tell him bluntly what you think the odds are, but if he gives you a hard time, just tell him to go for it.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby indo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:59 pm

AffordablePrep wrote:
indo wrote:
AffordablePrep wrote:You laugh about it, but the students believe it's strong. They'll concede it's 4th tier but will argue it's the most competitive 4th tier, perhaps most competitive non-tier 1 in the country. Obviously the school has convinced them of this. My friend is emotional and speaks poor English, but he's not an idiot.



Are you sure ? lol

I've met dumber. Honestly, I've tutored much dumber individuals that got into TT, people with 900/1600 sat scores.



wow you must keep good company

t14fanboy
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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby t14fanboy » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:00 pm

He will find a school he can transfer to because schools want

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Also, yes transferring from t10 to t3 is not analogous.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby indo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:01 pm

t14fanboy wrote:He will find a school he can transfer to because schools want

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Also, yes transferring from t10 to t3 is not analogous.



i like that sound of money

AffordablePrep
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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:02 pm

I keep judgments to myself unless i feel they'll benefit the other person. Like i omce had a student who had a dwi and confided in me that he punched his girlfriend, and suggested he get anger management counseling because he is going to fail at life. But telling someone they're just dumb not in terms of edcation, but brain size is fruitless.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby Younger Abstention » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:03 pm

AffordablePrep wrote:
Younger Abstention wrote:
AffordablePrep wrote:
Younger Abstention wrote:Not sure why you think he has no chance. You severely overestimate the competitiveness of transferring to a TTT school.

Top 40 percent is enough? I know top 10 to top 3 requires top 10 or 20 percent so i figured going up a tier from the lowest school in america requires more than top 40?


I don't think that's a logical extrapolation. Top 3 schools are extremely sought after (even by top 10 students), whereas much lower ranked schools are not.

You're right, but certainly some people apply?


Some do, sure.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AffordablePrep » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:04 pm

What are the standards?

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby TLSwag » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:07 am

Assuming ur friend is not an idiot as you claim, i think u should be more concerned with his lack of motivation/confidence. I'm a 0L, so obviously not an expert or anything, but isn't there a lot of time before finals for his classes? When you decide to be blunt, tell him if he's not top 20% of his class to drop the whole law school thing.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby RodneyBoonfield » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:33 pm

TLSwag wrote:Assuming ur friend is not an idiot as you claim, i think u should be more concerned with his lack of motivation/confidence. I'm a 0L, so obviously not an expert or anything, but isn't there a lot of time before finals for his classes? When you decide to be blunt, tell him if he's not top 20% of his class to drop the whole law school thing.


+1

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby FryBreadPower » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:38 pm

The only transferring from Cooley that should ever take place is transferring yourself into the front seat of Doc Brown's DeLorean.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AriGoldButNicer » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:39 pm

Yeah ive given up. I've tutored the LSAT to some people and those who start sub-140 are all screwed. They dream of law school, so when they improve to a 150 they stop studying, stop tutoring to save money as they've already jit their goal, secure a TTTT at sticker and I assume wind up poor and in profound debt. They are pointed to this website but ignore it. When you gain experience seeing how many of the tier 4 bunch ignore and even become hostile to anyone who questions their retarded game plan, you start to I wouldn't say empathize with the NY Law Schools of the world, but understand it isn't their fault. They'd fill up even if they were honest wth their stats. The TTTT is to college kids what the ab-belt is to fat people.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby kaiser » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:40 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:Yeah ive given up. I've tutored the LSAT to some people and those who start sub-140 are all screwed. They dream of law school, so when they improve to a 150 they stop studying, stop tutoring to save money as they've already jit their goal, secure a TTTT at sticker and I assume wind up poor and in profound debt. They are pointed to this website but ignore it. When you gain experience seeing how many of the tier 4 bunch ignore and even become hostile to anyone who questions their retarded game plan, you start to I wouldn't say empathize with the NY Law Schools of the world, but understand it isn't their fault. They'd fill up even if they were honest wth their stats. The TTTT is to college kids what the ab-belt is to fat people.


Love this

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AriGoldButNicer » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:43 pm

It's cruel but when someone sees the evidence and ignores it with no counter evidence, you need to let them go. It's kind of darwinism. I just cut him off because I can't talk to him aout anything without feeling guilty about how clueless he is about his future, but he also tells me I'm wrong and that cooley does better than uva job wise so he's worried about me. I'm not offended lol but i just dont wanna be his friend when he destructs, because id judt be pissed at him for not listening to me.

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Re: Transferring from cooley

Postby AriGoldButNicer » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:44 pm

kaiser wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:Yeah ive given up. I've tutored the LSAT to some people and those who start sub-140 are all screwed. They dream of law school, so when they improve to a 150 they stop studying, stop tutoring to save money as they've already jit their goal, secure a TTTT at sticker and I assume wind up poor and in profound debt. They are pointed to this website but ignore it. When you gain experience seeing how many of the tier 4 bunch ignore and even become hostile to anyone who questions their retarded game plan, you start to I wouldn't say empathize with the NY Law Schools of the world, but understand it isn't their fault. They'd fill up even if they were honest wth their stats. The TTTT is to college kids what the ab-belt is to fat people.


Love this

Now i should disclose idk if the ab belt works or not. I just only see fat people with it.... And the logic behind it doesn't make sense. It makes u uncomfortable so u sweat more when u run or do crunches, but wouldn't this also make u do less crunches?




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