t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

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Odds on GULC EA?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:36 am

Not a chance
3
8%
Not Likely
1
3%
50/50
10
26%
Likely
16
42%
Lock
8
21%
 
Total votes: 38

IsTheFatLadySinging
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t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:36 am

Currently at a t4. Ranked 2 out of 250+ kids. Booked 3 classes. (after first semester)
I am applying to
GULC EA
WUSTL EA
Northwestern
UIllinois (Instate tuition if admitted)

Should I even spend the money on Chicago ED?

Anyone from the last couple years make the t4 to Gtown leap? Advice?
Recommendations on going or staying if I get admitted to any of these schools? My current school has already said their merit scholarship system for the 2L and 3L year caps out at 28k (tuition is 34k). Even if you're ranked 1

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Coolgrnmen » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:35 am

IsTheFatLadySinging wrote:Currently at a t4. Ranked 2 out of 250+ kids. Booked 3 classes. (after first semester)
I am applying to
GULC EA
WUSTL EA
Northwestern
UIllinois (Instate tuition if admitted)

Should I even spend the money on Chicago ED?

Anyone from the last couple years make the t4 to Gtown leap? Advice?
Recommendations on going or staying if I get admitted to any of these schools? My current school has already said their merit scholarship system for the 2L and 3L year caps out at 28k (tuition is 34k). Even if you're ranked 1


Shoot higher. 2/250 > UIllinois & WUSTL...

Blanket T6 and honestly it might be better to wait for GULC RD. If you get in EA, you might waste $1000 on a seat deposit when you hear back that you were accepted to Columbia, NYU, dare I say...Harvard...etc.

TLSers may disagree with me, so take my advice for what it is...my advice...not everyone else's

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Veyron » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:58 am

CLS isn't that bad. Stop being a striver.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Coolgrnmen » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:39 pm

Veyron wrote:CLS isn't that bad. Stop being a striver.


I know for a fact CLS took top-of-their class t4 students...I don't think that's a comment on CLS being "bad."

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby jessuf » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:10 pm

I am in pretty much an identical position as you except replace T4 with T3. It doesn't seem like GULC EA took people from T3 or T4 schools last year from browsing the thread.

And as for T6, where are the stats for T3/T4 people getting in? I see nothing on Yahoo. The best I see is Northwestern for last year. That person was top 3% at a T4 with no awards. Seems like a total outlier to me considering a top 4% at a T4 with 3 book awards and law review was rejected by GULC.

I personally would transfer unless you are at a T4 with a lock on your region and you absolutely love that region. I would just apply to all transfer-friendly schools because it seems like transferring is 60% rank/GPA/school rank and 40% crapshoot. And I would apply as early as possible.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby stratocophic » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:13 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
Veyron wrote:CLS isn't that bad. Stop being a striver.


I know for a fact CLS took top-of-their class t4 students...I don't think that's a comment on CLS being "bad."
*whoosh*

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:35 pm

Jessuf - Where are you applying? Did you do GULC EA?

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby harborleaguemvp » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:44 pm

I was in a similar position 1L year, top 1% at TTTT. Deferred by Georgetown for EA. Blanket the T-14 and a couple should bite. If accepted ANYWHERE, definitely transfer even if your current school wines and dines you with scholarship offers, you won't regret it.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby jessuf » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:50 pm

IsTheFatLadySinging wrote:Jessuf - Where are you applying? Did you do GULC EA?


For EA, I did GULC, GWU, USC, and WUSTL.

For RD, if my rank doesn't change, I will blanket transfer-friendly schools in T12 to see who bites, if anyone, as well as other T25/T1 schools. I plan on getting everything in asap this summer.

A lot of TLSers say that if you get into GULC EA, that means your app is strong enough for a T12 acceptance. However, because I am top 1% at a T3 and not a T2, I'm thinking that spells deferment, making RD acceptance at other, better schools even more unpredictable.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:49 pm

Harbor - Did Gtown accept you after the deferral? Where did you end up transferring to?

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Indifferent » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:52 pm

you can get into substantially better schools than GULC.

hth.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby harborleaguemvp » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:54 pm

IsTheFatLadySinging wrote:Harbor - Did Gtown accept you after the deferral? Where did you end up transferring to?


No clue, I withdrew all my applications once I heard back from Berk, which was the first school to accept me. Berk accepted two students from our TTTT. As you're aware, the transfer process is a complete crapshoot.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby jessuf » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:01 pm

harborleaguemvp wrote:
IsTheFatLadySinging wrote:Harbor - Did Gtown accept you after the deferral? Where did you end up transferring to?


No clue, I withdrew all my applications once I heard back from Berk, which was the first school to accept me. Berk accepted two students from our TTTT. As you're aware, the transfer process is a complete crapshoot.


Did you come from a Cali T4?

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Mce252 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:09 pm

Indifferent wrote:you can get into substantially better schools than GULC.

hth.


Well considering there are only 13 of them, this seems unrealistic. From the yahoo group, it doesn't look like any T3/T4 students even have a shot at the T10 without being #1-5 in their class after the first year. And who knows how many of those applicants they get. There are a lot of T3/T4 schools.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:21 pm

Mce252 wrote:
Indifferent wrote:you can get into substantially better schools than GULC.

hth.


Well considering there are only 13 of them, this seems unrealistic. From the yahoo group, it doesn't look like any T3/T4 students even have a shot at the T10 without being #1-5 in their class after the first year. And who knows how many of those applicants they get. There are a lot of T3/T4 schools.


Im #2 at semester, Ill make sure to let everyone know what happens. I decided to apply to GULC EA (already sent), NYU, CLS, Mich, Northwestern, Chicago, Boalt, and Stanford. I will probably do WUSTL and UIllinois still

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Vronsky » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:23 pm

The lowest ranked schools among the transfer class at CLS this year include borderline TT/TTT schools like NYLS, Hofstra, St. Johns, Seton Hall, etc. I don't think there are any T4 schools, and most everyone comes from T1 schools.

As such, you should still apply to C/N, but forget about Chicago and Harvard, and Stanford. They take most of their transfers from T14/T1.

Aim for C/N, Mich., Penn, berkley (if you are in/from Cali), Cornell, and GULC. Your sweet spot is probably around T10-T14, but of course it doesn't hurt to apply to some of the T10 schools with bigger classes.

EA isn't a bad idea but yeah they might rope you in with the $1000 seat deposit. OTOH, its useful to get your LORs and stuff in early.

BTW, make sure you get your LOR form the professors you booked.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby IsTheFatLadySinging » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:43 pm

Vronsky - Would you recommend to transfer if admitted anywhere in the t14?

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Vronsky » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:48 pm

IsTheFatLadySinging wrote:Vronsky - Would you recommend to transfer if admitted anywhere in the t14?


Probably, given your scholarship situation, but it depends on things like market and career goals and such.

Also I can't tell if you are west coast or middle america - but you should probably drop the lower ranked schools on your list like WUSTL and Illinois, and add UCLA/USC/Vandy depending on location and market interest.

The best thing to do is to choose wisely the schools you apply to (to limit costs and not waste app fees on schools you have no shot at or that would not be worth it) and then decide over the summer. I came to the conclusion eventually that I would turn down GULC and stay at my NYC-area TT rather than transfer because of proximity and access to NY biglaw given my class rank and LR, but then I was accepted T6 and that was a different story.

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Re: t4; Ranked 2 / 250; 3 Book Awards; Transfer?

Postby Coolgrnmen » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:38 pm

stratocophic wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:
Veyron wrote:CLS isn't that bad. Stop being a striver.


I know for a fact CLS took top-of-their class t4 students...I don't think that's a comment on CLS being "bad."
*whoosh*


Whatever went over my head, I still don't get it. From the way I read it...and telling me or him to quit being a "striver"...I thought s/he was saying CLS was out of reach...oh well.




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