Final Transfer Stats 2011

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Mogulman
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Mogulman » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:31 am

T20, Top 1-2%, LR, 3 CALIs

LSAT: 169, undergraduate school rank: #1

Yale - rejected 7/21
Harvard - rejected 7/27
Columbia - incomplete (found out 7/29 that they never received transcript or dean certification after pestering them for several weeks) ... now throwing in the towel

Well, this cycle was even less fun than last year's. Submitted all my applications very late in the game (we got grades back fairly late). I guess I'd like to think that's what the problem was...

concurrent fork
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby concurrent fork » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:49 am

Mogulman wrote:T20, Top 1-2%, LR, 3 CALIs

LSAT: 169, undergraduate school rank: #1

Yale - rejected 7/21
Harvard - rejected 7/27
Columbia - incomplete (found out 7/29 that they never received transcript or dean certification after pestering them for several weeks) ... now throwing in the towel

Well, this cycle was even less fun than last year's. Submitted all my applications very late in the game (we got grades back fairly late). I guess I'd like to think that's what the problem was...

Not sure there was a problem. You would very likely have got CLS but HYS are always more of a black box.

Mogulman
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Mogulman » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:54 am

concurrent fork wrote:
Mogulman wrote:T20, Top 1-2%, LR, 3 CALIs

LSAT: 169, undergraduate school rank: #1

Yale - rejected 7/21
Harvard - rejected 7/27
Columbia - incomplete (found out 7/29 that they never received transcript or dean certification after pestering them for several weeks) ... now throwing in the towel

Well, this cycle was even less fun than last year's. Submitted all my applications very late in the game (we got grades back fairly late). I guess I'd like to think that's what the problem was...

Not sure there was a problem. You would very likely have got CLS but HYS are always more of a black box.



For sure. No expectation of getting into any of them. I'm just disappointed about the mixup at CLS and thinking it might be due to submitting late.

Transferthrowaway
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Transferthrowaway » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:31 pm

T-35, 3.97 GPA, Top 2%, Law Review

Yale: Rejected
Harvard: Rejected
Stanford: Rejected
Chicago: Accepted and attending

It seems to have been a tougher cycle for transferring this year. It also probably did not help that there were eight people from my old law school putting in transfer applications.

keg411
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby keg411 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:48 pm

1L School: Philly-area T2 (Nova/Rutgers/Temple; though I've "outed" my school in other threads)
GPA: ~3.79 (estimated top 4-6% based on Honors cut-offs, no official rank)
No top grade awards
Secondary journal (grade-on); did not try out for Moot Court/Mock Trial

LSAT: 165
Undergrad GPA: 2.85
5 years post-undergrad WE

Cycle officially over:
Columbia - OUT
Chicago - OUT (ED)
NYU - OUT
Penn - OUT
Michigan - IN (Attending)
Berkeley - OUT
Northwestern - IN
Cornell - IN
Georgetown - IN (RD)

Thoughts: my transfer cycle was actually not unpredictable and generally straightforward. I did extremely well at the lower T14 and no so much at CCN. I do think earlier applications to CLS/NYU could have changed my fortunes as I just assumed I'd be rejected (and maybe I would have anyway). Also, I'm betting my Penn rejection had a lot to do with a slew of applications from my school (and two people with higher GPA's then me are attending next year). I probably would have attended Cornell if they hadn't pulled the OCI BS since I want BigLaw in the northeast. However, I'm extremely pleased to be attending Michigan and I think I generally outperformed my numbers :).

Advice to future transfers: apply early and broadly and don't underestimate yourself. Also, write targeted personal statements. I think this was partially how I managed to do better than my numbers would indicate. Also prepare to spend $$$ on seat deposits. I had to deposit at Georgetown before getting accepted to MNC; especially since I thought at the outset that would be my only T14 acceptance.
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ms2010
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby ms2010 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:53 pm

1L School: 50s
GPA: 3.670 (7/132, top 5%)
Awards: Mock Trial, Moot Court, 2 CALIs
Journal: Law Review

FINAL RESULTS
NYU - IN (Attending)
Columbia - OUT
Fordham - OUT
Penn - OUT
GW - IN
Georgetown - Waitlisted

I don't know how much advice I can supply since I was incredibly confused by my entire transfer cycle. I think a tough curve at your school hurts you at some schools more than others. I also think late grades from your school can hurt you in the end. I'm incredibly happy with how it turned out, but be prepared for some unpredictable results.

Coolgrnmen
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Coolgrnmen » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:51 pm

These results demonstrate well that transfer admissions is even more of a black box. If LSN had a scatter chart for transfers, it wouldn't be very helpful...

My numbers:

Current Law School: NYLS #135 (Tier 3)
Undergraduate GPA: 3.0 (applied to law school as 0L with 2.79, last semester bumped me up)
Undergraduate School rank: Tier 3?
LSAT: 158

1L GPA: 3.44
1L Class Rank: 96/484 (Top 20%)
Honors: Dean's List (is that REALLY an award? lol)

Admitted: Boston University
Denied: GULC (EA deferred, denied early summer), Fordham
Choice: BU!
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K.R.I.T.
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby K.R.I.T. » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:10 pm

TTT in New England

Top 15% +
Law review write-on

Admitted: WUSTL (attending), Miami, Tulane
Rejected: Emory, ND

Erryday I'm WU$TL'N

JRD
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby JRD » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:22 pm

#1/267 at MSUCOL (#95). 5 JPs/CALIs.

NYU: In (WD)
Michigan: In (Attending)
BC: In (WD).

Transfer cycle went well, considering I attended MSUCOL with the goal of transferring to Michigan. Wondering a bit if I should have applied to HLS or CLS. Still, I might have picked Michigan anyway.

mrloblaw
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby mrloblaw » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:11 am

Transferthrowaway wrote:It also probably did not help that there were eight people from my old law school putting in transfer applications.


Hey, my subpar grades and significantly longer list of rejections totally didn't kill your chances :p

TransferRisk
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby TransferRisk » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:13 am

3.75 (Top 7%) T30

NYU: admitted (attending)
H: dinged (swiftly)
S: dinged (swiftly)
Chi: dinged (was under review for a month)
Colum: withdrew (paperwork lost?)

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jazz17
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby jazz17 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:06 pm

K.R.I.T. wrote:TTT in New England

Top 15% +
Law review write-on

Admitted: WUSTL (attending), Miami, Tulane
Rejected: Emory, ND

Erryday I'm WU$TL'N


WU$TL'N def. made me LOL haha...congrats though!

Willow617
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Willow617 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:57 pm

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KafkaLover
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby KafkaLover » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:33 am

Current School: T2 (Miami)
Top 4%, Law Review, Two Book Awards

Admitted: UF
Waitlisted: Gtown, de facto at Cornell
Rejected: Duke, NYU, Columbia

Miami did not give out their grades and rank until very late June, so my transcripts and other documents didn't get to some schools until mid-July, and even then I had issues about having to resend documentation. I think that this is basically why everything went so poorly - I think I would have probably gotten into at least Georgetown and Cornell if all of my materials had been received earlier. For future transfers, if your school has a time line like this, you need to be incredibly aggressive about applying very early and making sure that your school sends things as soon as possible. I think I also would have applied more broadly. Good luck to everyone next year.

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Regionality
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby Regionality » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:13 pm

School: Wisconsin, T35
GPA: 3.69, rank: top 5%. From the Bay Area.

GULC: In (ED Waitlisted, RD accepted)
Berkeley: In (attending)
Stanford: Out (after a long wait)

Because Berkeley accepted their students SO early, without requiring official transcripts, I was able to avoid applying to the other T14's I was not as interested in (like NYU, Columbia, Michigan, Duke, Northwestern, etc). As such I will never know how I would have done had I applied across the T14 board. I chose not to apply to H or Y.

heeloftar
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby heeloftar » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:05 pm

Bump

shock259
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby shock259 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:24 pm

Great data in here. Unfortunately, it makes me feel like I didn't apply to enough schools. This is seriously unpredictable.

TFR
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby TFR » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:10 pm

This randomness in this thread gives me hope

in_reverie
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Re: Final Transfer Stats 2011

Postby in_reverie » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:55 pm

About all this thread has done is affirm how completely unattainable YSH are. A few 1-2%'ers who still got dinged at H...




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