Stringer Bell wrote: vanwinkle wrote:
No, they do not.
Stringer Bell wrote:Harvard claims to consider whether or not you would have been competitive for admission out of UG when evaluating a transfer application..
You would obviously know better than I do. I swear I thought I saw that on the site or in an interview posted somewhere and thinking it was weird. Maybe it was Yale or maybe I imagined it.
It's an oft-perpetuated misreading of the HLS website, which actually says:
COMPETITION FOR TRANSFER ADMISSION
The competition for transfer admission is high. Many successful transfer candidates typically place very near the top of their first-year law class and would have also been admitted or wait-listed as first-year students on the basis of their pre-law-school credentials. Given the small number of transfer spaces available and a comparatively large and accomplished transfer applicant pool, some applicants who meet these characterizations cannot be offered admission. We cannot make estimates of an individual's chances for admission.
The bolded is the source of the confusion; people think the "would have also been admitted or wait-listed as first year students" means you have to be eligible to be admitted as a first-year. But this makes no sense whatsoever; if someone wanted to go to Harvard badly enough that they'd bother trying to transfer, and they were able to get in the first time around, why not just go there in the first place?
Besides, I'm proof that's not what it means. I have my rejection letter from the first time around. There was no WL, and I certainly did not have the necessary UGPA or LSAT to get in. Yet, here I am. So are many others who transferred from T20 or T30 schools and would've likely jumped at the chance to go to Harvard the first time around if they could.
I suspect, based on what I know now, the "pre-law-school credentials" part is the actual intended message. I think they're saying that the typically accepted transfer has a resume as impressive as the typical entering student
. This fits with what I've learned about the transfer policy here; apparently they actively screen the transfer pool for people with substantial WE. So they are looking for something in common with first-year admits, but it's not UGPA or LSAT.