A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

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A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby arvcondor » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:13 am

Yes, I'm aware that caveating your post with "0L" is a death sentence on the transfers board, but I believe this is a unique situation.

I'm considering attending Tulane for my 1L. Louisiana, as many of you are likely aware, is the only state in the country that still practices civil law. Accordingly, Tulane offers civil law classes, including "obligations," the civil variant of "contracts." I would absolutely not be attending school with the intent to transfer. But what I'd like to know is, if that opportunity did arise, or if I ended up hating Tulane and NOLA and wanting to book it out of there immediately as a lateral, or even transfer down for whatever reason, would schools look unfavorably on taking civil law classes instead of common law? This seems like one of the few instances in which your 1L coursework would differ at the school you're transferring from from the one you're going to.

Tulane offers contracts, too. But I would go in planning on taking courses suitable to the region in which I'd attend school.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:22 am

Don't ever take a law school course because you think you should take it. Barbri takes care of everything you need in that regard, so don't worry about it. I would personally recommend not taking them. "Obligations" is not worth taking over "Contracts II" (UCC Art. 2). Period. Ever - unless you are from Louisiana and know for a fact you have no intention of leaving.

To answer you question, I'm not sure anyone really knows. This is another reason to take common law classes. You can go back later and take "Obligations" and "Civil Law Property" if you want to take them.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby arvcondor » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:59 am

I guess my concern in this regard is with employers for SA who would look at my transcript, see "contracts" instead of "obligations," and wonder my commitment to staying in NOLA - something I hear is common with Tulane students. From what I remember, though, you're heading back to MS anyway, right?

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:28 am

arvcondor wrote:I guess my concern in this regard is with employers for SA who would look at my transcript, see "contracts" instead of "obligations," and wonder my commitment to staying in NOLA - something I hear is common with Tulane students. From what I remember, though, you're heading back to MS anyway, right?


From what I have been through, none of them care. No interviewer said..."I see you don't have obligations....we cannot hire you...." If this topic really worries you, tell the interviewers that you were uncertain as to whether you were staying at the point where you had to decide (November of 1L) - but that you are confident that you will now stay. I told an interviewer that yesterday and they stated that I should not worry because Barbri would prepare me for the Louisiana law bar exam. But if you don't feel like doing this, you could take Common Law Property and Contracts II and then pursue the Civil Law Certificate (but that would be a complete and total waste).

You really should take Contracts II (UCC Art. 2). It's a very, very important fundamental course.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby lsltyf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:43 am

arvcondor wrote:Yes, I'm aware that caveating your post with "0L" is a death sentence on the transfers board, but I believe this is a unique situation.

I'm considering attending Tulane for my 1L. Louisiana, as many of you are likely aware, is the only state in the country that still practices civil law. Accordingly, Tulane offers civil law classes, including "obligations," the civil variant of "contracts." I would absolutely not be attending school with the intent to transfer. But what I'd like to know is, if that opportunity did arise, or if I ended up hating Tulane and NOLA and wanting to book it out of there immediately as a lateral, or even transfer down for whatever reason, would schools look unfavorably on taking civil law classes instead of common law? This seems like one of the few instances in which your 1L coursework would differ at the school you're transferring from from the one you're going to.

Tulane offers contracts, too. But I would go in planning on taking courses suitable to the region in which I'd attend school.


I really don't know if it matters. My friend when to Loyola and took all the basic first year classes (30 hours) and was able to transfer to either WashU and Mizzou. He went to Mizzou and didn't lose any credits other than Crim Law due to it being 2 hours at Loyola and 3 hours and Mizzou. Other schools might be different but as for Missouri it doesn't seem to matter.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:48 am

lsltyf wrote:
arvcondor wrote:Yes, I'm aware that caveating your post with "0L" is a death sentence on the transfers board, but I believe this is a unique situation.

I'm considering attending Tulane for my 1L. Louisiana, as many of you are likely aware, is the only state in the country that still practices civil law. Accordingly, Tulane offers civil law classes, including "obligations," the civil variant of "contracts." I would absolutely not be attending school with the intent to transfer. But what I'd like to know is, if that opportunity did arise, or if I ended up hating Tulane and NOLA and wanting to book it out of there immediately as a lateral, or even transfer down for whatever reason, would schools look unfavorably on taking civil law classes instead of common law? This seems like one of the few instances in which your 1L coursework would differ at the school you're transferring from from the one you're going to.

Tulane offers contracts, too. But I would go in planning on taking courses suitable to the region in which I'd attend school.


I really don't know if it matters. My friend when to Loyola and took all the basic first year classes (30 hours) and was able to transfer to either WashU and Mizzou. He went to Mizzou and didn't lose any credits other than Crim Law due to it being 2 hours at Loyola and 3 hours and Mizzou. Other schools might be different but as for Missouri it doesn't seem to matter.


Did your friend take civil law courses at Loyola?

OP - I imagine that if you took civil law courses and transferred, you would have take the common law equivalent of the civil law courses at your new school (each school has a first year curriculum that must be passed in order to graduate). Yet another reason not to take civil law courses.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby lsltyf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:39 am

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
lsltyf wrote:
arvcondor wrote:Yes, I'm aware that caveating your post with "0L" is a death sentence on the transfers board, but I believe this is a unique situation.

I'm considering attending Tulane for my 1L. Louisiana, as many of you are likely aware, is the only state in the country that still practices civil law. Accordingly, Tulane offers civil law classes, including "obligations," the civil variant of "contracts." I would absolutely not be attending school with the intent to transfer. But what I'd like to know is, if that opportunity did arise, or if I ended up hating Tulane and NOLA and wanting to book it out of there immediately as a lateral, or even transfer down for whatever reason, would schools look unfavorably on taking civil law classes instead of common law? This seems like one of the few instances in which your 1L coursework would differ at the school you're transferring from from the one you're going to.

Tulane offers contracts, too. But I would go in planning on taking courses suitable to the region in which I'd attend school.


I really don't know if it matters. My friend when to Loyola and took all the basic first year classes (30 hours) and was able to transfer to either WashU and Mizzou. He went to Mizzou and didn't lose any credits other than Crim Law due to it being 2 hours at Loyola and 3 hours and Mizzou. Other schools might be different but as for Missouri it doesn't seem to matter.


Did your friend take civil law courses at Loyola?

OP - I imagine that if you took civil law courses and transferred, you would have take the common law equivalent of the civil law courses at your new school (each school has a first year curriculum that must be passed in order to graduate). Yet another reason not to take civil law courses.



I pretty sure that he did. He took a Crim Law class as well.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby vanwinkle » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Which course is the required 1L course at Tulane? Obligations, or Contracts?

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby arvcondor » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:14 pm

vanwinkle wrote:Which course is the required 1L course at Tulane? Obligations, or Contracts?
Either/or. You have a choice between the two.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:27 pm

arvcondor wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Which course is the required 1L course at Tulane? Obligations, or Contracts?
Either/or. You have a choice between the two.


Well...you have to take Contracts 1 (consideration/reliance/unjust enrichment/remedies/etc.) in the fall.

The following semester, in the spring, you choose between Contracts 2 (UCC)/Common law property or Obligations/Civil law property.

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Re: A reasonable 0L question about Louisiana law

Postby vanwinkle » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:42 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
arvcondor wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Which course is the required 1L course at Tulane? Obligations, or Contracts?
Either/or. You have a choice between the two.


Well...you have to take Contracts 1 (consideration/reliance/unjust enrichment/remedies/etc.) in the fall.

The following semester, in the spring, you choose between Contracts 2 (UCC)/Common law property or Obligations/Civil law property.

So either way you are taking a Contracts course that should fulfill the requirements at the school you're transferring up to. That's what I was wondering about.




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