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wandc
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Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby wandc » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:37 pm

-Finished 1L at a bottom T14 school.
-1L yr gpa is 3.3.
-Under grad gpa is 3.7
-LSAT is 164
-Not a an URM (under-represented minority)
-two years work experience as a paralegal

What are my odds at Penn, Chicago, NYU, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard?
Thanks everyone :)

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby MusicNutMeggie » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:39 pm

What's median at your school? Any way you can estimate rank/percentile?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby Renzo » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:41 pm

So, your question is whether finishing 1L at/below the midpoint of your class will allow you to transfer to a school that would have rejected you as a 0L?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby dbt » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:42 pm

I don't think this is going to happen. Probably need top 1/3 or so to get into CCN from wherever you're at. You may be able to lateral to a comparable school if you're looking for a fresh start, but your grades will follow you for OCI...

Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby Mirrored » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:48 pm

You need to start doing better at your current school and you do have some time.

Moving up when you haven't proved yourself is just silly.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby Renzo » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:49 pm

dbt wrote:
Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.

And if he fails, I'll make sure it isn't YHSCCNP.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby dbt » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:52 pm

Renzo wrote:
dbt wrote:
Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.

And if he fails, I'll make sure it isn't YHSCCNP.


Yea let's be real. If it's T7, it's gonna be V.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby NoleinNY » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:55 pm

wandc wrote:-Finished 1L at a bottom T14 school.
-1L yr gpa is 3.3.
-Under grad gpa is 3.7
-LSAT is 164
-Not a an URM (under-represented minority)
-two years work experience as a paralegal

What are my odds at Penn, Chicago, NYU, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard?
Thanks everyone :)


... You got into a T-14, non-URM, with a 3.7/164?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby RayFinkle » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:56 pm

Would you want advice from a poster who didn't know what URM means?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby TheBigMediocre » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:57 pm

NoleinNY wrote:
... You got into a T-14, non-URM, with a 3.7/164?


I was wondering the same thing.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby AngryAvocado » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:01 pm

Obvious flame is obvious.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby miamiman » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:02 pm

AngryAvocado wrote:Obvious flame is obvious.


Appetizing avocado is appetizing?

Also where have you been?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby MusicNutMeggie » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:05 pm

dbt wrote:I don't think this is going to happen. Probably need top 1/3 or so to get into CCN from wherever you're at. You may be able to lateral to a comparable school if you're looking for a fresh start, but your grades will follow you for OCI...

Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.


Not to nitpick, but they won't exactly follow you upon transferring; firms essentially treat you as though you're at the median at your new school-- that seems to be the consensus on here, at least. Your GPA resets when you transfer.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby dbt » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:09 pm

MusicNutMeggie wrote:
dbt wrote:I don't think this is going to happen. Probably need top 1/3 or so to get into CCN from wherever you're at. You may be able to lateral to a comparable school if you're looking for a fresh start, but your grades will follow you for OCI...

Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.


Not to nitpick, but they won't exactly follow you upon transferring; firms essentially treat you as though you're at the median at your new school-- that seems to be the consensus on here, at least. Your GPA resets when you transfer.


That is not the impression I've gotten at all. Firms have to judge you based on something, and they're going to look at your grades and the school you're coming from. I don't think you can fool them so easily.

Edit: Also, I don't necessarily mean that you'd fool them either. If someone that's at a T6, top 10% transfers up to H, it would be a slap in the face to be treated like a median H student.
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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby RayFinkle » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:21 pm

dbt wrote:
MusicNutMeggie wrote:
dbt wrote:I don't think this is going to happen. Probably need top 1/3 or so to get into CCN from wherever you're at. You may be able to lateral to a comparable school if you're looking for a fresh start, but your grades will follow you for OCI...

Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.


Not to nitpick, but they won't exactly follow you upon transferring; firms essentially treat you as though you're at the median at your new school-- that seems to be the consensus on here, at least. Your GPA resets when you transfer.


That is not the impression I've gotten at all. Firms have to judge you based on something, and they're going to look at your grades and the school you're coming from. I don't think you can fool them so easily.


They definitely don't treat you as median of your new school. It is closer to what dbt said. Generally, it seems that you can double your class rank as a general rule of how firms will treat your grades. For example, if you were top 10% at your old school, you will be as successful as the top 20% of your new school. Obviously this varies depending on the degree of difference between the two schools.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby stratocophic » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:49 pm

dbt wrote:
Renzo wrote:
dbt wrote:
Also, not to be picky, but there's no such thing as the T7, and as long as I'm alive I'll make sure there isn't such a thing.

And if he fails, I'll make sure it isn't YHSCCNP.


Yea let's be real. If it's T7, it's gonna be V.
Blatant anti-B trolling: I love it.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby dbt » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:54 pm

Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby stratocophic » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:00 pm

dbt wrote:Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.
I don't disagree in the least. USNWR has been giving pro-B trolls ammo as of late, and that's about it as far as I can tell.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby 09042014 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:10 pm

stratocophic wrote:
dbt wrote:Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.
I don't disagree in the least. USNWR has been giving pro-B trolls ammo as of late, and that's about it as far as I can tell.


None of the lower T13 are the seventh. They all suck fairly equally.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby GeePee » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:32 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
dbt wrote:Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.
I don't disagree in the least. USNWR has been giving pro-B trolls ammo as of late, and that's about it as far as I can tell.


None of the lower T13 are the seventh. They all suck fairly equally.

Wouldn't that make them all the seventh?

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby Rand M. » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:46 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
dbt wrote:Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.
I don't disagree in the least. USNWR has been giving pro-B trolls ammo as of late, and that's about it as far as I can tell.


None of the lower T13 are the seventh. They all suck fairly equally.


C'mon, Cornell surely sucks more than MVP. :lol: Otherwise, your point is well taken. I think MVPBDN is the most muddled group of six schools until you get out of the Top20 or so.

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby wandc » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:10 pm

This isn't a flame. I'm obviously lucky to be where I'm at right now given my crappy numbers. I'm just playing the game (better than many of you).

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby stratocophic » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:18 pm

wandc wrote:This isn't a flame. I'm obviously lucky to be where I'm at right now given my crappy numbers. I'm just playing the game (better than many of you).

And with that,
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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby drake » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:03 am

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Re: Transfer to T7 Odds

Postby 09042014 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:04 am

Rand M. wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
dbt wrote:Is it? I always though Berkeley was a great school but that it somehow slipped past MVP without ever having the stats to back it up.
I don't disagree in the least. USNWR has been giving pro-B trolls ammo as of late, and that's about it as far as I can tell.


None of the lower T13 are the seventh. They all suck fairly equally.


C'mon, Cornell surely sucks more than MVP. :lol: Otherwise, your point is well taken. I think MVPBDN is the most muddled group of six schools until you get out of the Top20 or so.


Its the worst T13 to attend, but before ITE their placement was solid, last year they got killed by no offers. If that year becomes a trend I will conceed the point.




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