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feeling really confident about making lr at nu. if i do make it, is it worth it to go 2 columbia?

i dont have a fixation on NY, but want better job prspects overall.

I don't think it's unreasonable at all to fully expect to get on law review at one of the best schools in America, and then transfer to really, really one of the top schools in America. Not unreasonable at all.

tbo123123 wrote:feeling really confident about making lr at nu. if i do make it, is it worth it to go 2 columbia?

i dont have a fixation on NY, but want better job prspects overall.

NU LR >> CLS no LR.

Unless you're looking for DC or NY (which is a big unless) I don't think it'll help even if you don't make LR at NU. You would do OCI at CLS before you had grades and ITE employers are treating transfers as if they were at their old school.

I think NU to YHS could be justified because of the name recognition factor down the line, but Harvard >>> Columbia in that regard.

Also LR here is a crapshoot. Lots of 3.9+ on secondary journal.

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rayiner wrote: Also LR here is a crapshoot. Lots of 3.9+ on secondary journal.

I'm interesting in at least attempting to unpack that a little.

LR = Top 26 students @ [.50*GPA + .40*Writing + .10*Edit] + Top 10 students @ [0.80*Writing + 0.20*Edit] after you filter out the top 26 students from the first category, from my understanding of how membership works.

GPA = deterministic
Edit score = deterministic (instructions explicitly focused on objective errors)
Writing score = arbitrary (creativity/argument strength) + deterministic (BB issues, format, organization, substantive accuracy @ precedent)

Even within the arbitrary part of writing, the instructions seemed to hint that they're not looking for a game-changer, just something interesting which can be legally argued within the circle of precedent. Even if the spread is tight around the median @ arbitrary component of the writing part, which it likely will be unless people *started* working on it on Wednesday or something bizarre, it benefits all people equally. In the end, GPA is the driving variable here. Median GPA @ LR was 3.8 according to a current editor of NW LR (grapevine), which makes relative given that 26 students chosen in criteria #1 probably have 3.7+ GPAs.

Additionally, a lot of people who scored in the bottom quartile in Fall 09 seem to have not participated in the competition (grapevine), also some people will transfer out of NW (like I might). I think if one had anything above a 3.6 (Fall 09) (top 33%), and feel like you can repeat that in the Spring, one should've treated LR as a totally achievable goal given the 50% weight to it.