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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby xferAlt » Tue May 04, 2010 9:45 am

Hmm...Still says application under review. Same 4/20 date. Thoughts?

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby LW2010 » Tue May 04, 2010 10:08 am

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby zizou » Tue May 04, 2010 11:47 am

LW2010 wrote:
xferAlt wrote:Hmm...Still says application under review. Same 4/20 date. Thoughts?


+1


Same, I guess all it can mean is there will be another round of acceptances, deferrals, or both.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby LW2010 » Tue May 04, 2010 12:22 pm

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby zizou » Tue May 04, 2010 2:29 pm

I think I just got deferred, under review 5/4, no e-mail yet..

Update: Decision Rendered

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby dcpolitico » Tue May 04, 2010 4:07 pm

disco_barred wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?


Lol. I think my ConLaw exam had to be the worst. We were given 50 short answer questions with random quotes from cases we read. We had to identify each quote by Justice, case, and whether it was from a dissent, concurring opinion, or majority opinion. We also had to identify whether a hypothetical quote (not from a case) is more developmentalist, doctrinalist, originalist, structuralist, contextualist, etc... For essay, we had to predict whether certain Justices would uphold a particular legal doctrine on appeal.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bevo06 » Tue May 04, 2010 4:10 pm

zizou wrote:I think I just got deferred, under review 5/4, no e-mail yet..

Update: Decision Rendered



If you are DR that means that you are either accepted or rejected. Everyone else who was deferred, including myself, has the app status of "Under Review" still. Good luck!!

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby stinger35 » Tue May 04, 2010 4:22 pm

dcpolitico wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?


Lol. I think my ConLaw exam had to be the worst. We were given 50 short answer questions with random quotes from cases we read. We had to identify each quote by Justice, case, and whether it was from a dissent, concurring opinion, or majority opinion. We also had to identify whether a hypothetical quote (not from a case) is more developmentalist, doctrinalist, originalist, structuralist, contextualist, etc... For essay, we had to predict whether certain Justices would uphold a particular legal doctrine on appeal.


Tell me this is a joke. Please.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby apper123 » Tue May 04, 2010 4:27 pm

dcpolitico wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?


Lol. I think my ConLaw exam had to be the worst. We were given 50 short answer questions with random quotes from cases we read. We had to identify each quote by Justice, case, and whether it was from a dissent, concurring opinion, or majority opinion. We also had to identify whether a hypothetical quote (not from a case) is more developmentalist, doctrinalist, originalist, structuralist, contextualist, etc... For essay, we had to predict whether certain Justices would uphold a particular legal doctrine on appeal.


please tell me this isnt real

what school is this? PM it to me. i need to know.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby dcpolitico » Tue May 04, 2010 5:06 pm

stinger35 wrote:Tell me this is a joke. Please.


I wish it were. Everyone left the exam feeling like a failure. But our grades were curved, so no one failed.

For the essay, he told us, "There's no such thing as a wrong answer, just unpersuasive answers." He preferred that we cite more law review articles than cases. This was definitely unlike any other law school exam. But it wasn't unexpected, because our professor is one of those well published ConLaw legal scholars who's written many books and who's cited in our casebook.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby stinger35 » Tue May 04, 2010 6:11 pm

dcpolitico wrote:
stinger35 wrote:Tell me this is a joke. Please.


I wish it were. Everyone left the exam feeling like a failure. But our grades were curved, so no one failed.

For the essay, he told us, "There's no such thing as a wrong answer, just unpersuasive answers." He preferred that we cite more law review articles than cases. This was definitely unlike any other law school exam. But it wasn't unexpected, because our professor is one of those well published ConLaw legal scholars who's written many books and who's cited in our casebook.


Your professor is also a dick. I mean, seriously, identifying passages from opinions???? That reminds me of senior year English (High School) where we had to memorize passages from Shakespeare. What good does that do at all? Yes, it forces you to read the opinions, but who gives a shit? I don't think I could take that. I would drop out or something.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby thexfactor » Tue May 04, 2010 11:02 pm

sigh... i just feel a "step" slower this semester as compared to last semester.

Does anyone else feel that way too?
Making more "stupid" mistakes on exams as compared to last semester. I donno what is going on.

At least i got at least an A- in my writing class. Got the highest grade on my final paper.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby dcpolitico » Tue May 04, 2010 11:10 pm

thexfactor wrote:sigh... i just feel a "step" slower this semester as compared to last semester.

Does anyone else feel that way too?
Making more "stupid" mistakes on exams as compared to last semester. I donno what is going on.

At least i got at least an A- in my writing class. Got the highest grade on my final paper.


sorry for playing the role of shrink, but it sounds like you set higher expectations for yourself this semester :lol:

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Journeybound » Tue May 04, 2010 11:40 pm

I keep trying to remind myself that I was convinced that I was going to get all Cs during finals last semester. Hopefully feeling stupid before/during finals will turn out to be a good thing again. I can only hope.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bankhead » Tue May 04, 2010 11:47 pm

i need to ace property for a chance at redemption. but i'm too burnt out to even study... the test might be the hardest of all time the way my teacher does it. i guess with the curve though it doesn't really matter/might even be a good thing.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby A'nold » Wed May 05, 2010 12:49 am

Bankhead wrote:i need to ace property for a chance at redemption. but i'm too burnt out to even study... the test might be the hardest of all time the way my teacher does it. i guess with the curve though it doesn't really matter/might even be a good thing.


That's what I'm hoping about the exam I took today. Everyone was weirded out by it and the character limit completely sucked. Nothing like having to erase great analysis b/c you still need at least 3,000 characters to talk about another guy's liability and then do so in a rushed and conclusory fashion. Ugh.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby xferAlt » Wed May 05, 2010 11:25 am

Back on track (regrettably): Deferred via email 5/5, 9:24A EST. Mid-T2, Top 6%.

For the conspiracy theorists: last name in the middle of the alphabet, applied incredible early, mid-west plains state law school.

Best of luck to everyone for round two!

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby LW2010 » Wed May 05, 2010 11:50 am

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby kings84_wr » Wed May 05, 2010 1:49 pm

Bankhead wrote:i need to ace property for a chance at redemption. but i'm too burnt out to even study... the test might be the hardest of all time the way my teacher does it. i guess with the curve though it doesn't really matter/might even be a good thing.


Is she anything like her husband? I actually really liked con law from him. At least you know the grades will get back pretty early since they are leaving for Burma in a few weeks.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Marie9444 » Thu May 06, 2010 10:16 am

I was deferred April 27th and my status check recently changed back to application complete and the date is May 3rd. Anyone else?

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Big Shrimpin » Thu May 06, 2010 11:13 am

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby willnumber85 » Thu May 06, 2010 1:59 pm

+1

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby traydeuce » Thu May 06, 2010 4:12 pm

dcpolitico wrote:
stinger35 wrote:Tell me this is a joke. Please.


I wish it were. Everyone left the exam feeling like a failure. But our grades were curved, so no one failed.

For the essay, he told us, "There's no such thing as a wrong answer, just unpersuasive answers." He preferred that we cite more law review articles than cases. This was definitely unlike any other law school exam. But it wasn't unexpected, because our professor is one of those well published ConLaw legal scholars who's written many books and who's cited in our casebook.


I mean, depending on the con law issue, there really is no such thing as a wrong answer. I'd venture to guess that most con law exam questions are about areas of the law sufficiently unsettled that that would be a correct statement. When I took con law with Chemerinsky at Duke as an undergrad, the exam was something like, well if one day fetuses are viable from basically the moment of conception (you could take them out and foster them in a dish somehow), would that mean that abortion isn't constitutionally protected from the moment of conception? Or does viability mean viability by old-fashioned means, or would the test evolve, etc.? No wrong answer to that, clearly.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby patrickd139 » Thu May 06, 2010 4:31 pm

willnumber85 wrote:+1

Looking for ways to up your post-count much?

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby dcpolitico » Thu May 06, 2010 5:10 pm

traydeuce wrote: I mean, depending on the con law issue, there really is no such thing as a wrong answer. I'd venture to guess that most con law exam questions are about areas of the law sufficiently unsettled that that would be a correct statement. When I took con law with Chemerinsky at Duke as an undergrad, the exam was something like, well if one day fetuses are viable from basically the moment of conception (you could take them out and foster them in a dish somehow), would that mean that abortion isn't constitutionally protected from the moment of conception? Or does viability mean viability by old-fashioned means, or would the test evolve, etc.? No wrong answer to that, clearly.


Our question was like this: Is the cannon of Constitutional avoidance more likely to be applied by a contextualist, originalist, textualist, structuralist, or developmentalist justice? In a well-developed essay, analyze the merits of this question, drawing on theory, journal articles, case law, and legal doctrine. Counts as 50% of your grade.

(not offending H.C. b/c I took last semester, Q is not verbatim, and Q is publicly accessible).




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