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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby thexfactor » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:15 pm

engineer wrote:
thexfactor wrote:looks like im done with the transfer game. Just bombed con law prob worse than a b prob c+ or lower. I applied a whole test wrong (lopez commerce clause).

good luck guys


Lopez should only be applied to issues of Congress regulating purely intrastate activities. Under Lopez, they can only do so if there's a "substantial relation" to interstate commerce. That said, I feel like as long as your general argument was solid, it doesn't matter how you apply it--even if you got the outcome wrong (i.e. using Lopez to justify Congress' imposition of a law regulating a purely intrastate activity with no interstate component), the prof will probably realize the confusion.

If you used Lopez to justify a standing issue, however, that's another story.


I misunderstood the question. I thought the question involved whether or not if you apply the law to a fire station would it be valid. The teacher was asking whether or not the law is valid from a general perspective. I used the 5 factors in lopez but I applied it directly to the fact pattern.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby engineer » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:28 pm

thexfactor wrote:I misunderstood the question. I thought the question involved whether or not if you apply the law to a fire station would it be valid. The teacher was asking whether or not the law is valid from a general perspective. I used the 5 factors in lopez but I applied it directly to the fact pattern.


I honestly wouldn't sweat it. Professors know that exams don't simulate real-world constraints; you'll be penalized for answering a different question, no doubt, but I don't think it'll be as severe as, say, someone who drew smiley faces and penises on their exam. That said, as long as you provided a cogent legal analysis of the fact pattern, you'll still get some credit.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bonobo » Sat May 01, 2010 12:12 am

Anyone from Chicago definitely transferring? Chicago born 'n raised--maybe know one of you at Kent or Loyola or Depaul etc...

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby chitown825 » Sat May 01, 2010 12:21 am

Just as a heads up guys, the "Art of Law School Transfer" book is a total waste of money. 3 pages are about transferring and 100 pages are about getting good grades (which is irrelevant at this point).

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby apper123 » Sat May 01, 2010 1:11 am

chitown825 wrote:Just as a heads up guys, the "Art of Law School Transfer" book is a total waste of money. 3 pages are about transferring and 100 pages are about getting good grades (which is irrelevant at this point).

Yeah, I didn't find that book useful at all.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby chitown825 » Sat May 01, 2010 11:21 am

Bonobo wrote:Anyone from Chicago definitely transferring? Chicago born 'n raised--maybe know one of you at Kent or Loyola or Depaul etc...


I'm also a lifelong Chicagoan, although I'm currently law school in a neighboring state

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Marie9444 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:04 pm

Random Question,

So basically I (along with quite a few others) went way over the character limit on our exam because it was not indicated whether the limit included spaces or not. Additionally, the software we use has two counters "characters" and "characters w/s", so if you went by the wrong counter you went way over. Well, I was one of those lucky people and apparently now our professor may not read these exams or only part of them.

Are my chances of transferring down the drain if I get a C, D or even an F for this!? I am assuming so but it seems so crazy that spaces could cause such an issue. If I do receive a low grade should I send them my grades anyway with an addendum explaining? (I have been deferred)

Thanks!

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby apper123 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:23 pm

Marie9444 wrote:Random Question,

So basically I (along with quite a few others) went way over the character limit on our exam because it was not indicated whether the limit included spaces or not. Additionally, the software we use has two counters "characters" and "characters w/s", so if you went by the wrong counter you went way over. Well, I was one of those lucky people and apparently now our professor may not read these exams or only part of them.

Are my chances of transferring down the drain if I get a C, D or even an F for this!? I am assuming so but it seems so crazy that spaces could cause such an issue. If I do receive a low grade should I send them my grades anyway with an addendum explaining? (I have been deferred)

Thanks!


If the professor never indicated what the appropriate limit was on the exam and which metric to use, I'd be shocked if they actually punished you. That seems unbelievably unfair. And who counts spaces in a character limit? Who counts characters at all?

And yes, your chances will get hurt severely with a C and probably be cooked with a D or an F.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby A'nold » Sat May 01, 2010 3:28 pm

We use exam soft at my school and it automatically stops us w/ a certain amount of characters.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Marie9444 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:43 pm

Well I wish we used examsoft then...its extremely difficult to be thinking about a "character limit" (which is complete bs) when you are trying to write an exam under time constraints. We use exam 4.

After a bunch of us complained we got an email today saying that he meant for us to include spaces, yet that wasnt indicated on the board in the test room nor on the exam itself anywhere. He is now claiming he mentioned it in class at some point, I never missed a class so I am confused about that as well.

Thanks for the input guys!

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby A'nold » Sat May 01, 2010 3:49 pm

Marie9444 wrote:Well I wish we used examsoft then...its extremely difficult to be thinking about a "character limit" (which is complete bs) when you are trying to write an exam under time constraints. We use exam 4.

After a bunch of us complained we got an email today saying that he meant for us to include spaces, yet that wasnt indicated on the board in the test room nor on the exam itself anywhere. He is now claiming he mentioned it in class at some point, I never missed a class so I am confused about that as well.

Thanks for the input guys!


What a dick. It boggles my mind that some of these professors (or at least their policies) are allowed at law schools. It reminds me of how we "don't have a curve" yet all of my section basically curves to a 2.7 yet the other professors in the other section curve to whatever the hell they want (an average of a 3.0 this semester). Stuff like that is so wrong I can't even believe that it exists. Hello? We are LAW STUDENTS and our grades determine the rest of our careers. Professors like your and administrations like mine just crap on that and the students and think only of themselves. Screw them.

Yeah, I normally don't get all serious like this but man this pisses me off.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby apper123 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:50 pm

reason #23421324 why word/character/page limits on law exams are ridiculous

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Big Shrimpin » Sat May 01, 2010 4:08 pm

apper123 wrote:reason #23421324 why word/character/page limits on law exams are ridiculous


i mean, the test-day anxiety flowing from memorizing an entire semester of material+grades+employment prospects+the rest of your life isn't such a big deal, right?

word limits... :roll:

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bankhead » Sun May 02, 2010 5:39 pm

Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby 270910 » Sun May 02, 2010 5:48 pm

Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Zeph » Sun May 02, 2010 6:26 pm

So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Lawl Shcool » Sun May 02, 2010 6:31 pm

Zeph wrote:So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?


+1 on this question

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bankhead » Sun May 02, 2010 9:07 pm

disco_barred wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?


Actually, that's exactly what he does. He gives us a prior case (usually appellate level not SCOTUS and not a hypothetical) and grades based on how close we get to the court's actual opinion...

They were squibs in our book, so it was fair game. The people who happened to pull them out will do well. It rewards people who actually read the casebook instead of just Chemerinsky, since being such recent cases they haven't made it into Chem.

I just failed to do that.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby kings84_wr » Sun May 02, 2010 9:41 pm

Bankhead wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...


So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?


Actually, that's exactly what he does. He gives us a prior case (usually appellate level not SCOTUS and not a hypothetical) and grades based on how close we get to the court's actual opinion...

They were squibs in our book, so it was fair game. The people who happened to pull them out will do well. It rewards people who actually read the casebook instead of just Chemerinsky, since being such recent cases they haven't made it into Chem.

I just failed to do that.



To be fair though dude, just about everyone Ive talked to in your guys class seemed to think htey bombed

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby kings84_wr » Sun May 02, 2010 9:47 pm

JPU wrote:
Zeph wrote:So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?


+1 on this question


I think july 19th is the last day to have a week, so you should be able to write on after admission likely.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby LW2010 » Mon May 03, 2010 1:51 pm

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby newyorker69 » Mon May 03, 2010 4:37 pm

LW2010 wrote:Still no word and have been under review since 4/20...

Are the first round of deposits due today or next Monday?


they're due next monday the 10th

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby kings84_wr » Tue May 04, 2010 12:48 am

Changed back to complete lol

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby A'nold » Tue May 04, 2010 1:18 am

kings84_wr wrote:Changed back to complete lol


Me too, on 5/3.

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Re: Official Georgetown EA thread

Postby Bankhead » Tue May 04, 2010 2:07 am

Same. It's like midnight passed and I turned back into a pumpkin...




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