Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2013)
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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Other25BeforeYou » Thu May 27, 2010 10:24 am

jks289 wrote:
fsohn wrote:
jks289 wrote:
fsohn wrote:You've gotta be one risk-loving sonofagun coming to law school paying full tuition ITE. Just saying.


Even if I agreed that for the general population Cornell at sticker constituted a significant risk (and I don't, necessarily) my personal circumstances make it less so. I also think it is a silly assumption that "ITE" is applicable to the economy three years from now. Also I tend to make big life and financial decision based on factors other than the collective wisdom of 0Ls on an internet message board. :)


The assumptions. . . they boggle the mind.


Regarding the economy? I could be wrong, but my money (150K of it) is on it being better in 3 years. Only time will tell, but I'm making an educated guess. As to the rest of it, I know my own circumstances which I'd be happy to discuss via PM but would rather not post online. Also, I'm not planning on BigLaw so IBR and Cornell's LRAP matter more than 30K total merit aid I was offered at other T20s.

I do appreciate you role on these threads, fshon. It has helped me solidify that I'm making the right choice.


I believe fsohn was referring to the assumption that basing your decision on what's been said here would be basing it on "the collective wisdom of 0Ls on an internet message board," given that a number of us are incoming 2Ls and he/she is an incoming 3L, if I recall correctly.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby cornell1L » Thu May 27, 2010 10:35 am

outgoing 3L here (or 4L, if you will). the economy will probably be better in 3 years but what mainly matters for incoming 1Ls is the economic outlook in fall 2011, when your OCI will take place. i would expect the outlook to be better than it is now and, more importantly, that the bottleneck of incoming biglaw associates (the deferred classes of 2009 and 2010) will be mostly cleared, which will mean that firms will be able to take on more summers. when i applied to law school in 2006/2007, T14 meant you got biglaw unless you absolutely blew your 1L year. last year I think you needed to do well AND interview well to get biglaw. going forward it will get easier than that to land a firm gig, but it remains to be seen how much easier.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby AdamatUCF » Thu May 27, 2010 3:50 pm

vexion wrote:Congrats AdamatUCF, Heather1987, spaacecdt, and everyone else!

Also, there have been some 0Ls looking for roommates to share a place across this thread, and in discussions on the official Cornell Law Class of 2013 Facebook group and the unofficial TLS Cornell Class of 2013 group (that's where all the cool kids are.) It's a long shot but might still merit a look.



Thanks!

I tried looking for this "unofficial TLS Cornell Class of 2013 group" but I couldn't find the right combination of words to search for to make it come up.

Link?

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Re: Cornell 2013

Postby CyLaw » Thu May 27, 2010 4:10 pm

CyLaw wrote:Hey all, I was thinking about it, and it would be great if we all had a place to talk to one another with some locationally sensitive information (such as where we are living, and meet-ups and such), that we may not want broadcasted out to the world. So I have created a secret Facebook group for TLS Cornell Class of 2013. PM me with your email address and I will send the invite to join.

Because it is a secret group, membership will not appear on your profile, and no one will be able to find it in search results (until Facebook f*cks that up).

<-- Future Privacy Lawyer

Edit: Also make sure that the email address is the one you use for Facebook. Some have had issues if the email is not the main email for their Facebook account. Use your Facebook contact email, which is under Account Settings, Settings, Email. It should be the address next to "Set your email contact information".


For the new people.

PM either myself, holybartender, or OP.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby vexion » Thu May 27, 2010 4:44 pm

AdamatUCF wrote:Thanks!

I tried looking for this "unofficial TLS Cornell Class of 2013 group" but I couldn't find the right combination of words to search for to make it come up.

Link?

CyLaw made it a super state secret.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Ronaldo » Thu May 27, 2010 10:44 pm

Do you guys know of a high quality furniture store in Ithaca? I am thinking of buying everything on Ikea online, but if there is a quality store in Ithaca, I could save the shipping costs.

Thanks!

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Babushka9 » Thu May 27, 2010 11:18 pm

any suggestions on how to get the best housing this late in the year? I heard most ppl sign leases early january. Thanks!

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby fsohn » Thu May 27, 2010 11:41 pm

cornell1L wrote:outgoing 3L here (or 4L, if you will). the economy will probably be better in 3 years but what mainly matters for incoming 1Ls is the economic outlook in fall 2011, when your OCI will take place. i would expect the outlook to be better than it is now and, more importantly, that the bottleneck of incoming biglaw associates (the deferred classes of 2009 and 2010) will be mostly cleared, which will mean that firms will be able to take on more summers. when i applied to law school in 2006/2007, T14 meant you got biglaw unless you absolutely blew your 1L year. last year I think you needed to do well AND interview well to get biglaw. going forward it will get easier than that to land a firm gig, but it remains to be seen how much easier.


I've still gotta believe this is a best case scenario. Hope springs eternal, but the costs of law school (tuition + COL + opportunity costs) may not justify it.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby alexyoshi » Fri May 28, 2010 11:55 am

i always wonder about the COL argument. like, aren't you going to be paying rent/mortgage/utilities whether or not you're attending LS? i don't really take it into account.

(unless you're living with parents or something)

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby jks289 » Fri May 28, 2010 12:01 pm

alexyoshi wrote:i always wonder about the COL argument. like, aren't you going to be paying rent/mortgage/utilities whether or not you're attending LS? i don't really take it into account.

(unless you're living with parents or something)


Typically you aren't borrowing the cost of living, to be paid back with interest. So I think it qualifies in terms of overall debt load. I think if you plan on paying COL from savings, spousal income, or living at home then it doesn't really count towards "cost of attendance."

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby alexyoshi » Fri May 28, 2010 12:16 pm

ahh, that makes sense. didn't consider that. in that case, our COL has more to do with the interest rather than the principal, in my opinion.

*edit - i mean, i see that it's part of the debt load, i just can't qualify it the same way i do tuition.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby vexion » Fri May 28, 2010 12:21 pm

alexyoshi wrote:i always wonder about the COL argument. like, aren't you going to be paying rent/mortgage/utilities whether or not you're attending LS? i don't really take it into account.

Plus, COL factors into the LS decision because COL at the law school you would attend might be higher/lower than COL wherever you would be living your time otherwise. COL is a big factor if you'd attend Columbia or NYU, but otherwise would live in Peoria.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby alexyoshi » Fri May 28, 2010 12:24 pm

another good point. i'm still stuck in the ithaca vs. rochester mindset, so not much of a difference there.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby mec30 » Fri May 28, 2010 2:42 pm

So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby AdamatUCF » Fri May 28, 2010 3:01 pm

mec30 wrote:So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?


I've heard that all of the male rooms in Hughes Hall (the 1L dorms) are taken. I was just accepted by Cornell a couple of days ago, so I didn't make that cutoff. I know I'm not the only one who hasn't secured housing yet.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby jks289 » Fri May 28, 2010 3:08 pm

AdamatUCF wrote:
mec30 wrote:So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?


I've heard that all of the male rooms in Hughes Hall (the 1L dorms) are taken. I was just accepted by Cornell a couple of days ago, so I didn't make that cutoff. I know I'm not the only one who hasn't secured housing yet.


I haven't found anything good yet. I'm starting to get worried. I'm flexible on where we are, but want landry on-site (As a California girl the idea of trudging through the snow to do laundry sounds awful). I didn't think it would be hard to meet that in our price range (trying for less than 1000/month, including utilities) but everything has been too small or too expensive. I swear I am not that picky. :(

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Babushka9 » Fri May 28, 2010 3:59 pm

Wow I didn't think it would be that hard to find housing!!

Have any of the recent admits heard back after sending in their deposits? I wonder if I should call to confirm...

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby AdamatUCF » Fri May 28, 2010 4:48 pm

jks289 wrote:
AdamatUCF wrote:
mec30 wrote:So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?


I've heard that all of the male rooms in Hughes Hall (the 1L dorms) are taken. I was just accepted by Cornell a couple of days ago, so I didn't make that cutoff. I know I'm not the only one who hasn't secured housing yet.


I haven't found anything good yet. I'm starting to get worried. I'm flexible on where we are, but want landry on-site (As a California girl the idea of trudging through the snow to do laundry sounds awful). I didn't think it would be hard to meet that in our price range (trying for less than 1000/month, including utilities) but everything has been too small or too expensive. I swear I am not that picky. :(


Damnit, thanks to your avatar, I read your posts in the voice of Betty from Mad Men.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby danidancer » Fri May 28, 2010 4:50 pm

jks289 wrote:
AdamatUCF wrote:
mec30 wrote:So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?


I've heard that all of the male rooms in Hughes Hall (the 1L dorms) are taken. I was just accepted by Cornell a couple of days ago, so I didn't make that cutoff. I know I'm not the only one who hasn't secured housing yet.


I haven't found anything good yet. I'm starting to get worried. I'm flexible on where we are, but want landry on-site (As a California girl the idea of trudging through the snow to do laundry sounds awful). I didn't think it would be hard to meet that in our price range (trying for less than 1000/month, including utilities) but everything has been too small or too expensive. I swear I am not that picky. :(


It's seriously disheartening. I'm HOPING that next week, being the beginning of the month and post-holiday, will see more Craigslist activity, but at the moment I'm not too happy with my lack of off-campus housing options.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby jks289 » Fri May 28, 2010 5:03 pm

danidancer wrote:
jks289 wrote:
AdamatUCF wrote:
mec30 wrote:So has everyone secured housing? Does anyone know whether it's too late to apply for a spot in Hughes?


I've heard that all of the male rooms in Hughes Hall (the 1L dorms) are taken. I was just accepted by Cornell a couple of days ago, so I didn't make that cutoff. I know I'm not the only one who hasn't secured housing yet.


I haven't found anything good yet. I'm starting to get worried. I'm flexible on where we are, but want landry on-site (As a California girl the idea of trudging through the snow to do laundry sounds awful). I didn't think it would be hard to meet that in our price range (trying for less than 1000/month, including utilities) but everything has been too small or too expensive. I swear I am not that picky. :(


It's seriously disheartening. I'm HOPING that next week, being the beginning of the month and post-holiday, will see more Craigslist activity, but at the moment I'm not too happy with my lack of off-campus housing options.


Padmapper has been a relatively good resource. I am trying to decide how much money it is worth spending. We live in a tiny closet in Santa Monica but we're right by the beach and don't spend that much time indoors, so it is completely liveable. I feel like we should hedge against the Ithaca winter by getting something with a little more space and amenities that make the winter easier (washing machine, parking, etc). But then I feel like we are spending way to much for Ithaca, and we're going to be comically broke already. I have seen a few decent places, but people are taking forever to get back to me. Good luck looking! At least you can go back and visit, which should make this easier.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby mec30 » Fri May 28, 2010 6:38 pm

Looks like getting a car is going to be necessary. I keep forgetting that it's probably not reasonable to think I can ride my bike to school year-round (God, I'm going to miss California). I put myself on the housing waitlist but I'm not expecting much there. I'm planning on spending a week looking for places in June.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Ronaldo » Fri May 28, 2010 6:45 pm

mec30 wrote:Looks like getting a car is going to be necessary. I keep forgetting that it's probably not reasonable to think I can ride my bike to school year-round (God, I'm going to miss California). I put myself on the housing waitlist but I'm not expecting much there. I'm planning on spending a week looking for places in June.


What about the bus? ... when I was there for the ASW, the bus option seemed very convenient. I have a car right now but I think I am going to sell it and take the bus to school. I will live Downtown.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby Ostrizr316 » Sun May 30, 2010 2:49 pm

Ronaldo wrote:
mec30 wrote:Looks like getting a car is going to be necessary. I keep forgetting that it's probably not reasonable to think I can ride my bike to school year-round (God, I'm going to miss California). I put myself on the housing waitlist but I'm not expecting much there. I'm planning on spending a week looking for places in June.


What about the bus? ... when I was there for the ASW, the bus option seemed very convenient. I have a car right now but I think I am going to sell it and take the bus to school. I will live Downtown.


From the few times I've been up there, it seems like the students rely on the TCAT bus service pretty heavily. I've also heard that part of our tuition goes to an unlimited bus pass our first year.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby KMaine » Mon May 31, 2010 8:15 am

All of the above is credited re: the bus. I (and many others) took the bus to the LS every day this year. It is free for the first year. Busses are fairly convenient and run frequently. Welcome to Cornell y'all!

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Postby legallybrunette16 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:25 am

I just want my netID!!!! :shock: I assumed that sending in my phone number would elicit an extremely speedy response... guess I was wrong!




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