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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:17 am
by Jericwithers
thickfreakness wrote:Apparently you guys don't know what sarcasm is. NO GOLF FOR YOU
Going to UT. The ATL title given to Duke seems to be true :evil:

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:19 am
by thickfreakness
soullesswonder wrote: Yeah, but that's the thing...Duke's now offering to make me a Mordecai :D
Nice.

1. Apply to Duke
2. Get Mordecai
3. ????
4. Profit

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:20 am
by Jericwithers
thickfreakness wrote:
soullesswonder wrote: Yeah, but that's the thing...Duke's now offering to make me a Mordecai :D
Nice.

1. Apply to Duke
2. Get Mordecai
3. ????
4. Profit
+1

And if I don't get any more money, I will resent you forever.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:21 am
by DallasCowboy
I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:22 am
by Jericwithers
DallasCowboy wrote:I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.
If you can get it for free you probably don't need to work as hard to do as well. Big fish little pond kind of thing.

I have also successfully facebook stalked you, Steven's new friend.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:25 am
by thickfreakness
DallasCowboy wrote:I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.

I had a full ride undergrad and worked really hard. I felt like if I screwed up I was disrespecting people who didn't have scholarships. It was almost a situation where I felt like I had to prove my worth by doing well, or something like that.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:25 am
by soullesswonder
DallasCowboy wrote:I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.
It's an interesting question. I think it puts a different kind of pressure on you to live up to the initial assessment of the school. The Mordecai adds another layer of pressure since it's a named scholarship and therefore a little more high profile. If you flub up during 1L, people might look at you and think "really?" (I'm sure Duke students would never say that out loud, but someone couldn't help but think it).

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:26 am
by Jericwithers
soullesswonder wrote:
DallasCowboy wrote:I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.
It's an interesting question. I think it puts a different kind of pressure on you to live up to the initial assessment of the school. The Mordecai adds another layer of pressure since it's a named scholarship and therefore a little more high profile. If you flub up during 1L, people might look at you and think "really?" (I'm sure Duke students would never say that out loud, but someone couldn't help but think it).
Don't worry, I'll call you out on sucking if the peer pressure is what you need to do well.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:37 am
by soullesswonder
Jericwithers wrote:
soullesswonder wrote:
DallasCowboy wrote:I wonder if I would work as hard if it was free.
It's an interesting question. I think it puts a different kind of pressure on you to live up to the initial assessment of the school. The Mordecai adds another layer of pressure since it's a named scholarship and therefore a little more high profile. If you flub up during 1L, people might look at you and think "really?" (I'm sure Duke students would never say that out loud, but someone couldn't help but think it).
Don't worry, I'll call you out on sucking if the peer pressure is what you need to do well.
You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.

I don't know if I or anyone else has mentioned this before, but people should probably be looking at Duke's 3 SCOTUS clerkships as a sign of things to come. The Dean came in and declared that there was no reason why Duke shouldn't be turning out high-level clerks, so they've really made it a priority. Next term, Duke will have as many SCOTUS clerks as UVA, so that's a good sign moving forward.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:38 am
by Jericwithers
I have to balance Duke's 3 clerks with Texas' potential Supreme Court Justice. If only Obama would nominate today.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:39 am
by los blancos
It's nice that I'm probably not going to have a decision to make about all of this. It's likely either Duke or Chicago and Chicago is going to make that decision for me. :mrgreen:

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:43 am
by Jericwithers
los blancos wrote:It's nice that I'm probably not going to have a decision to make about all of this. It's likely either Duke or Chicago and Chicago is going to make that decision for me. :mrgreen:
What about NYU? They might feel taken down a peg after the new rankings.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:48 am
by soullesswonder
Jericwithers wrote:I have to balance Duke's 3 clerks with Texas' potential Supreme Court Justice. If only Obama would nominate today.
I would think having Wood on the Court would benefit Chicago more than Texas, since she's been there so long. In any case, Kagan and Garland still seem to be the two most likely candidates.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:14 pm
by los blancos
Jericwithers wrote:
los blancos wrote:It's nice that I'm probably not going to have a decision to make about all of this. It's likely either Duke or Chicago and Chicago is going to make that decision for me. :mrgreen:
What about NYU? They might feel taken down a peg after the new rankings.
I don't think I'd take NYU over Duke + $. Chicago >>> NYU for me due to location, its academic focus, and NYU's huge class size. Plus, I'm pretty sure NYU is a waitlist at this point.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:32 pm
by Jericwithers
los blancos wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
los blancos wrote:It's nice that I'm probably not going to have a decision to make about all of this. It's likely either Duke or Chicago and Chicago is going to make that decision for me. :mrgreen:
What about NYU? They might feel taken down a peg after the new rankings.
I don't think I'd take NYU over Duke + $. Chicago >>> NYU for me due to location, its academic focus, and NYU's huge class size. Plus, I'm pretty sure NYU is a waitlist at this point.
Oh so now that NYU was taken down a peg you no longer want to go :P typical TLS rank whoring

Soulless you better go to Duke, or withdraw today so they can throw the leftovers from your Mordecai to me.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:43 pm
by los blancos
Jericwithers wrote:
los blancos wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
los blancos wrote:It's nice that I'm probably not going to have a decision to make about all of this. It's likely either Duke or Chicago and Chicago is going to make that decision for me. :mrgreen:
What about NYU? They might feel taken down a peg after the new rankings.
I don't think I'd take NYU over Duke + $. Chicago >>> NYU for me due to location, its academic focus, and NYU's huge class size. Plus, I'm pretty sure NYU is a waitlist at this point.
Oh so now that NYU was taken down a peg you no longer want to go :P typical TLS rank whoring
Look at my preferences on LSN, I'm definitely the anti-TLS rankings whore. :mrgreen:

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:57 pm
by Jericwithers
soullesswonder wrote:You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.
If I could make a signature and have all my posts end with this quote, I would.

Yes after reading your profile I would say you aren't a whore, LB. That holds true for anyone who puts Stanford #2 to Berkley's #1.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:05 pm
by DallasCowboy
Jericwithers wrote: I have also successfully facebook stalked you, Steven's new friend.
Man, I figured out who you were a long time ago from the UT message board. Your name is a bit of a giveaway.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:20 pm
by thickfreakness
soullesswonder wrote: You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.

I don't know if I or anyone else has mentioned this before, but people should probably be looking at Duke's 3 SCOTUS clerkships as a sign of things to come. The Dean came in and declared that there was no reason why Duke shouldn't be turning out high-level clerks, so they've really made it a priority. Next term, Duke will have as many SCOTUS clerks as UVA, so that's a good sign moving forward.
A big part of why I'm going is because of the new dean's emphasis on PI, pro bono, and clerking. The guy's been a federal public servant since the day he walked out of Stanford LS--he's going to have knowledge about and connections to these kinds of positions. I just get the feeling that there's a ton of new energy and enthusiasm at Duke right now and I want to get in on it.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:31 pm
by Jericwithers
DallasCowboy wrote:
Jericwithers wrote: I have also successfully facebook stalked you, Steven's new friend.
Man, I figured out who you were a long time ago from the UT message board. Your name is a bit of a giveaway.
Figuring out who I am and being able to Facebook find me are two different things though. I have not tried to hide my identity throughout the enitre law school application process.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:38 pm
by soullesswonder
thickfreakness wrote:
soullesswonder wrote: You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.

I don't know if I or anyone else has mentioned this before, but people should probably be looking at Duke's 3 SCOTUS clerkships as a sign of things to come. The Dean came in and declared that there was no reason why Duke shouldn't be turning out high-level clerks, so they've really made it a priority. Next term, Duke will have as many SCOTUS clerks as UVA, so that's a good sign moving forward.
A big part of why I'm going is because of the new dean's emphasis on PI, pro bono, and clerking. The guy's been a federal public servant since the day he walked out of Stanford LS--he's going to have knowledge about and connections to these kinds of positions. I just get the feeling that there's a ton of new energy and enthusiasm at Duke right now and I want to get in on it.
I just really wish they'd overhaul the LRAP already. It wasn't the best to begin with and now UVA has really opened up a gap by moving so quickly to change theirs.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:38 pm
by los blancos
Jericwithers wrote:
soullesswonder wrote:You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.
If I could make a signature and have all my posts end with this quote, I would.

Yes after reading your profile I would say you aren't a whore, LB. That holds true for anyone who puts Stanford #2 to Berkley's #1.

I'm most proud of Virginia's #11.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:40 pm
by soullesswonder
los blancos wrote:
Jericwithers wrote:
soullesswonder wrote:You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.
If I could make a signature and have all my posts end with this quote, I would.

Yes after reading your profile I would say you aren't a whore, LB. That holds true for anyone who puts Stanford #2 to Berkley's #1.

I'm most proud of Virginia's #11.
I think you feel the same way about Virginia as I do about Michigan.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:50 pm
by thickfreakness
soullesswonder wrote:
thickfreakness wrote:
soullesswonder wrote: You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.

I don't know if I or anyone else has mentioned this before, but people should probably be looking at Duke's 3 SCOTUS clerkships as a sign of things to come. The Dean came in and declared that there was no reason why Duke shouldn't be turning out high-level clerks, so they've really made it a priority. Next term, Duke will have as many SCOTUS clerks as UVA, so that's a good sign moving forward.
A big part of why I'm going is because of the new dean's emphasis on PI, pro bono, and clerking. The guy's been a federal public servant since the day he walked out of Stanford LS--he's going to have knowledge about and connections to these kinds of positions. I just get the feeling that there's a ton of new energy and enthusiasm at Duke right now and I want to get in on it.
I just really wish they'd overhaul the LRAP already. It wasn't the best to begin with and now UVA has really opened up a gap by moving so quickly to change theirs.
Agreed. Though if you take the Mordecai LRAP won't be as substantial of an issue. I think there was some buzz at ASO that John Ahlers and Co. are revamping the LRAP to dovetail well with IBR and give some more relief to PI grads.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:42 pm
by prezidentv8
thickfreakness wrote:
soullesswonder wrote:
thickfreakness wrote:
soullesswonder wrote: You've managed to combine the helpful "Duke community" vibe and the d-bag reputation in one comment - well done, sir.

I don't know if I or anyone else has mentioned this before, but people should probably be looking at Duke's 3 SCOTUS clerkships as a sign of things to come. The Dean came in and declared that there was no reason why Duke shouldn't be turning out high-level clerks, so they've really made it a priority. Next term, Duke will have as many SCOTUS clerks as UVA, so that's a good sign moving forward.
A big part of why I'm going is because of the new dean's emphasis on PI, pro bono, and clerking. The guy's been a federal public servant since the day he walked out of Stanford LS--he's going to have knowledge about and connections to these kinds of positions. I just get the feeling that there's a ton of new energy and enthusiasm at Duke right now and I want to get in on it.
I just really wish they'd overhaul the LRAP already. It wasn't the best to begin with and now UVA has really opened up a gap by moving so quickly to change theirs.
Agreed. Though if you take the Mordecai LRAP won't be as substantial of an issue. I think there was some buzz at ASO that John Ahlers and Co. are revamping the LRAP to dovetail well with IBR and give some more relief to PI grads.
Went to a meeting on that topic actually. Sort of an LRAP/IBR 101 lunch time session. I think you're right about them attempting to make these two programs work well together. And besides that, John Ahlers is a pretty cool dude.