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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by Bosque » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:19 pm

quakeroats wrote:
Bosque wrote:We 3Ls cannot see the firms you guys can interview with. How many are there this year?
Check your PMs. How does that compare with last year?
I checked my PM, but not back at this thread. Seems about the same, didn't bother to find the list from last year to confirm.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by los blancos » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:53 pm

Anyone know when Round II results come out?

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by quakeroats » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:28 pm

los blancos wrote:Anyone know when Round II results come out?
This weekend it said I was waitlisted for all my bids, but it went away.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by DallasCowboy » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:39 pm

what is all this noise about a lower median this year?

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by quakeroats » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:45 pm

DallasCowboy wrote:what is all this noise about a lower median this year?
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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by DallasCowboy » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:50 pm

everyone has been saying things along the lines of "75 percent are between 3.2 and 3.4" or 3.2 is the median gpa or etc for the class of 2013

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by los blancos » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:52 pm

DallasCowboy wrote:everyone has been saying things along the lines of "75 percent are between 3.2 and 3.4" or 3.2 is the median gpa or etc for the class of 2013
As in last year's 1L median was a 3.2?

Weird. Wonder where that came from.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by DallasCowboy » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:54 pm

the rumor is that career services told that to employers who told that to students in interviews

i can neither confirm nor deny lol

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by quakeroats » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:07 pm

DallasCowboy wrote:everyone has been saying things along the lines of "75 percent are between 3.2 and 3.4" or 3.2 is the median gpa or etc for the class of 2013
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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by Jericwithers » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:02 pm

Never trust a Dallas Cowboy, thats what I was told.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by lawyerwannabe » Fri May 04, 2012 6:12 pm

Hey almost 3Ls,

Obviously class ranking at Duke is unknown. Out of curiosity though, above what GPA (in your guesstimate) makes you a viable candidate at OCI?

Thanks.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by quakeroats » Wed May 16, 2012 11:40 pm

lawyerwannabe wrote:Hey almost 3Ls,

Obviously class ranking at Duke is unknown. Out of curiosity though, above what GPA (in your guesstimate) makes you a viable candidate at OCI?

Thanks.
It's impossible to say without more information. You'll get a pdf of the average GPA by firm size in a few weeks, but that isn't very helpful either as it seems to count the 20+ offers 3.7+ students can get in with the typically fewer offers other students get. This raises the average GPA by firm, and makes it less helpful than going to the career office and asking them to break things down by firm. They won't do this for a long list, so narrow down the firms you'll qualify for. If you're targeting major markets (NY, DC, Chicago, LA, etc.) It's going to be harder the further below median you are. New York is the easiest, D.C. is arguably the hardest, few people go to Chicago or California without some kind of ties so that's difficult to judge too. If you're around median or above, look at this post: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p4586547
It's designed for UVA, but is more or less what you can expect at Duke. If you're below median, here's a list of firms that recruit mostly people below median at Georgetown: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p4586237 I suspect some of the data from this list if from 2007 or earlier, so take the D.C. offices with a grain of salt.

But none of this really answers your question because whether you get an offer(s) depends on at least the following:

How many interviews did you do, and where did you do them?
Do you have relevant work experience?
Do you interview well?
Will you fit into the firm culture as interpreted by your interviewers?
Do you know enough about the firm you're interviewing with to have a conversation?
Are you from a diverse background?
Do you have ties to the area (ties are helpful or necessary everywhere except NY)?

In general, the higher your GPA, the less of these you'll need to have going for you. There's no strict cutoff for viability, although if you're close to a 3.0 or below you should work very hard over the next few months to ensure you get something. Most of the strike outs I've heard about are poor targeting (e.g., if you're not near the top of the class, don't bid on California/Texas without ties, don't bid on more than 2 or maybe 3 markets), or people who just don't seem to want it (e.g., young, no real interview practice, little firm research, mediocre to poor grades, not interested in the process, etc.). I know people with terrible grades that got something, but they usually worked very hard for it.

Edit: Quick tip: when you're making your bid list, ignore what firms write in the description on Symplicity. Some request top 10% and will take below median. Others say top half and almost never drop that low. They don't seem to update them from school to school. Ignore it all.

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Post by DallasCowboy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:18 pm

quakeroats wrote: Edit: Quick tip: when you're making your bid list, ignore what firms write in the description on Symplicity. Some request top 10% and will take below median. Others say top half and almost never drop that low. They don't seem to update them from school to school. Ignore it all.
Only one that holds close to true is the Latham 3.45 minimum

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Re: Duke Class of 2013

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