UVA Class of 2013

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2013)
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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby jnorsky » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:13 pm

good idea on the thread, im looking for a roomate so it would be helpful

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby schlizzle » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm

Applicant2010 wrote:Has anyone started looking into housing?


I read through some of the old UVA c/o threads and started dreaming. There's a lot of good advice hidden in there. The cost of an apartment at UVA is outrageously cheaper than what I'm paying now. =D

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby Applicant2010 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:34 pm

Based on my research, I think these are arguably the nicest apartment communities in the area. There are some neat condos/townhouses downtown and off of 29, but since they are mostly individually owned, it seems hit or miss on renting.

A 3L buddy of mine lived at Lakeside during 1L and recommended Woodlands. It seems ideal for roommates with divided floorplans, but it's probably not great for my little family.

Woodlands of Charlottesville (LinkRemoved)
Avemore
Carriage Hills
Stone Creek Village
Jefferson Ridge
Lakeside

I think I'm leaning towards Carriage Hills, Avemore or Stone Creek.

Anyone have any experience with these?

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby SweetnessUVA » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:58 pm

Applicant2010 wrote:Based on my research, I think these are arguably the nicest apartment communities in the area. There are some neat condos/townhouses downtown and off of 29, but since they are mostly individually owned, it seems hit or miss on renting.

A 3L buddy of mine lived at Lakeside during 1L and recommended Woodlands. It seems ideal for roommates with divided floorplans, but it's probably not great for my little family.

Woodlands of Charlottesville (LinkRemoved)
Avemore
Carriage Hills
Stone Creek Village
Jefferson Ridge
Lakeside

I think I'm leaning towards Carriage Hills, Avemore or Stone Creek.

Anyone have any experience with these?




Is it true that the Woodlands and Ivy Gardens are the two apartment complexes that are heavily favored?

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby Applicant2010 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:20 pm

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby lnz103 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:20 pm

I read on here that Ivy Gardens and some places on Arlington Blvd are the places to go... I'm still deciding if I want to live alone or have a roommate. Any girls out there definitely going yet??

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby jnorsky » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:48 pm

Definitely looking at Ivy gardens, its five mins from the school, and 2 mins from the gym. Plus it is where a ton of law school students live i heard and is sort of the social center. i know we are going to law school, but i want to be around people that like to drink and have a good time as well. just need to find a roommate cause a single is pricey and it would be chill to have a cool roommate.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby lnz103 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:53 pm

jnorsky wrote:Definitely looking at Ivy gardens, its five mins from the school, and 2 mins from the gym. Plus it is where a ton of law school students live i heard and is sort of the social center. i know we are going to law school, but i want to be around people that like to drink and have a good time as well. just need to find a roommate cause a single is pricey and it would be chill to have a cool roommate.


Agreed.. I've just had terrible undergrad roommate experiences. I guess most people probably have. Does anyone know what happens with your 12 month lease when you get an out of town summer associateship? Ivy Gardens told me they do 12 month leases.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby UVA or Bust » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:18 pm

bdrr wrote:Bob McDonnell doesn't believe women belong outside of the kitchen. That would include law-school, believe it or not. Unless there's a kitchen and they're making cookies in the shape of the ten commandments to pass out during Con Law. He might go for that.

Sooooo... unless you want dirty looks from each of our female classmates for the next three years, perhaps Mr. Governor is a topic one might want to avoid.



Not to start a political debate but:
1) The thesis was written some twenty plus years ago when social conventions were a bit different,
2) We have only seen small select portions of the thesis,
3) Mr. McDonnell's own family clearly doesn't resemble the claims made about the thesis
4) Mr. McDonnell was endorsed by Sheila Johnson the co-founder of BET
5) Based on exit polls a majority of working women voted for McDonnell (51% to 49%) and of majority of all women (54% to 46%) http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/image ... va.gov.pdf

So I think it will be unlikely each of our female classmates will give those of us who support McDonnell dirty looks but I'll leave that up to their discretion.

Bdrr, I do find your ranking of Presidents particularly interesting. I would rank as follows (I leave George W. Bush out as I think it is too early from a historical prespective to rank him although I think he will be viewed very negatively by history and if I had to rate him right now I'd put him toward the rear of the pack on Constitutional grounds alone):

Washington > Reagan > Jefferson > Wilson > Ike > Nixon > Clinton > Kennedy > H.W. Bush > Johnson > Harrison > FDR (sorry but regardless of his accomplishments I won't stand in favor of a president who, amognst other things, threatened the Court)

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby Cavalier » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Washington > Reagan > Jefferson > Wilson > Ike > Nixon > Clinton > Kennedy > H.W. Bush > Johnson > Harrison > FDR (sorry but regardless of his accomplishments I won't stand in favor of a president who, amognst other things, threatened the Court)

Jefferson is going to have to be your #1 if you attend UVA.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby UVA or Bust » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:33 pm

Cavalier wrote:
Jefferson is going to have to be your #1 if you attend UVA.


That's a pretty good point. I shall be adjusting that.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby schlizzle » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:56 pm

lnz103 wrote:I read on here that Ivy Gardens and some places on Arlington Blvd are the places to go... I'm still deciding if I want to live alone or have a roommate. Any girls out there definitely going yet??


Also female, haha. I've been trying to make the same decision. Roommate = significantly cheaper, but so far I don't know anyone else going to UVA from around me.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby lnz103 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:41 pm

schlizzle wrote:
lnz103 wrote:I read on here that Ivy Gardens and some places on Arlington Blvd are the places to go... I'm still deciding if I want to live alone or have a roommate. Any girls out there definitely going yet??


Also female, haha. I've been trying to make the same decision. Roommate = significantly cheaper, but so far I don't know anyone else going to UVA from around me.


Yeah, I definitely don't know anyone going from Georgia Tech, or Georgia in general for that matter. I guess it's still pretty early. But I'm being *subtly encouraged* to find a roommate to save $$ as I highly doubt I will be receiving any semblance of scholarship money. Everyone on here made me paranoid that all the good places will be taken by the first week in Jan :?

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby bdrr » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:41 pm

UVA or Bust wrote:
bdrr wrote:

Washington > Reagan > Jefferson > Wilson > Ike > Nixon > Clinton > Kennedy > H.W. Bush > Johnson > Harrison > FDR (sorry but regardless of his accomplishments I won't stand in favor of a president who, amognst other things, threatened the Court)


The problem with Reagan is he unduly gets the credit for ending the Cold War. Nixon laid the groundwork.

- Reopening relations with China (who were now at odds with the Soviet Union) prompted fear that a WWIII would be fought on two fronts
- The SALT and ABM treaties decreased tension and provide (to this day) a sense of security to Russia.
- Khrushchev visit to Los Angeles (more of a success than most think)
- Ending the Vietnam War
- Non-intervention in Chile

Throw in the founding of the EPA (only a socially progressive Republican could ever have gotten that done) and in terms of longevity, we have a significantly successful presidency.

Reagan really just left us with an enormous budget deficit, multiple Latin-American interventions, and Iran-Contra. While you can certainly pull out Watergate and Laos against Reagan, Watergate was a result of paranoia rather than policy, and Laos was, undeniably, the correct decision which any President should have made.

Now, on another hand, I really think H.W. Bush in the coming decades is going to be getting a better grade, sort of the same way Ike did. Sometimes 20 years just isn't enough. The Gulf War was probably one of the biggest successes in American history. The United States led an international coalition of troops in an internationally sanctioned intervention. The amount of work that went into that coalition was immense, and it's rather amazing he got it done. Not to mention he got the Arabs on his side. And, hey, I've got to say, a president that promises no new taxes, but raises them anyway is the sign of a good leader. It needed to be done. He knew he'd lose the next election because of it, but he did it anyway because it needed to be done (good job Reagan).

[As an interesting side-note, the justification for the Laos bombing would support a present American intervention in Northern Mexico, which I believe is required. Sovereignty requires that you are able to control the territory of which you claim. This is clearly not the case as nearly the entire north and south of the country are controlled by drug cartels. The state is powerless in places like Ciudad Juarez. It is too dangerous having a failed state along our own borders.]

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:22 pm

lnz103 wrote:I read on here that Ivy Gardens and some places on Arlington Blvd are the places to go... I'm still deciding if I want to live alone or have a roommate. Any girls out there definitely going yet??


As a 1L, I can tell you that Arlington Blvd. is most definitely the most convenient place to live (you're about two blocks from the law school in one direction, and Barracks Road Shopping Center in the other). A close second for most convenient is Ivy Gardens, which is from what I've seen a nicer place to live, and is still within (longer) walking distance from Barracks.

It's just a question of which is more important to you. If you want the absolutely shortest walking distance, go with someplace on Arlington; if you want a nicer place and can stand an extra 5 minutes of walking each way (or you own a car), go with Ivy.

Also, to the author of the last post, what does "Non-intervention in Chile" mean?

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby oneforship » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:28 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
lnz103 wrote:I read on here that Ivy Gardens and some places on Arlington Blvd are the places to go... I'm still deciding if I want to live alone or have a roommate. Any girls out there definitely going yet??


As a 1L, I can tell you that Arlington Blvd. is most definitely the most convenient place to live (you're about two blocks from the law school in one direction, and Barracks Road Shopping Center in the other). A close second for most convenient is Ivy Gardens, which is from what I've seen a nicer place to live, and is still within (longer) walking distance from Barracks.

It's just a question of which is more important to you. If you want the absolutely shortest walking distance, go with someplace on Arlington; if you want a nicer place and can stand an extra 5 minutes of walking each way (or you own a car), go with Ivy.

Also, to the author of the last post, what does "Non-intervention in Chile" mean?


As far as owning a car goes, how important is it to be within (reasonable) walking distance of the law school? Is it really tough/expensive to get parking nearby the school?

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby YCrevolution » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:30 pm

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:48 pm

oneforship wrote:As far as owning a car goes, how important is it to be within (reasonable) walking distance of the law school? Is it really tough/expensive to get parking nearby the school?


This is an important point: 1Ls are only eligible for parking permits in the Blue Lot, which is the farthest lot from the law school. If you live on Arlington Blvd. you live closer than your car would be parked at the Blue Lot. If you live at Ivy, depending on which apartment you get (it's a huge complex and some units are a lot closer to the law school than others) you'd be about as close or a little farther.

Because of how close you are at Arlington or Ivy, you're not allowed to get a parking permit if you live in one of those two places. They assume walking would be the same distance for you either way (which it would) and they don't want you needlessly cluttering their parking lot.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby oneforship » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:50 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
oneforship wrote:As far as owning a car goes, how important is it to be within (reasonable) walking distance of the law school? Is it really tough/expensive to get parking nearby the school?


This is an important point: 1Ls are only eligible for parking permits in the Blue Lot, which is the farthest lot from the law school. If you live on Arlington Blvd. you live closer than your car would be parked at the Blue Lot. If you live at Ivy, depending on which apartment you get (it's a huge complex and some units are a lot closer to the law school than others) you'd be about as close or a little farther.

Because of how close you are at Arlington or Ivy, you're not allowed to get a parking permit if you live in one of those two places. They assume walking would be the same distance for you either way (which it would) and they don't want you needlessly cluttering their parking lot.


Good info, thanks.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby lnz103 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:03 pm

Has anyone gotten student login info? Does that come with the admission package? Mine arrived at my parents' house yesterday but I haven't been able to get back there to look through it.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby bdrr » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:41 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
Also, to the author of the last post, what does "Non-intervention in Chile" mean?


Contrary to popular belief, the United States actually had very little to do with toppling Allende's socialist government in the early 70's. American intervention would have destroyed the very fragile arms-control talks and overall warming relations with the Soviet Union. The coup was more of a populist/military uprising against a government that had spent the country into bankruptcy and depleted the ever-powerful military and judicial systems, than one sponsored by American agents. The most the United States had to do with it was financial pressure/capital freezing and "encouraging" the assassination of one prominent pro-socialist general.

As far as meddling goes, it was pretty hands off and within the rule-book. And, of course, in comparison to any of Reagan's actions, well, there's no comparison.

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby jnorsky » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:42 pm

Hey guys, Just wondering, what are some apartments on Arlington that I should look at when I visit. Jeffersonian says that they dont let people look at apts, which is kind of ridiculous, so im lookng for others on arlington, thanks

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby hypermeganet » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:49 pm

Anyone know if it is possible to live between Richmond and Charlottesville? Like halfway maybe?

My fiancee will be commuting to Richmond so it'll be nice if we can. Although Google maps makes it seem that there's nothing in between. :-/

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

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Re: UVA Class of 2013

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:43 pm

bdrr wrote:Contrary to popular belief, the United States actually had very little to do with toppling Allende's socialist government in the early 70's. American intervention would have destroyed the very fragile arms-control talks and overall warming relations with the Soviet Union. The coup was more of a populist/military uprising against a government that had spent the country into bankruptcy and depleted the ever-powerful military and judicial systems, than one sponsored by American agents. The most the United States had to do with it was financial pressure/capital freezing and "encouraging" the assassination of one prominent pro-socialist general.

As far as meddling goes, it was pretty hands off and within the rule-book. And, of course, in comparison to any of Reagan's actions, well, there's no comparison.


This is a very strange assertion and one not supported by any of the facts I've read on the subject. Essentially your argument is "We didn't directly intervene in South America because if we had it would've been more effective than what actually happened."

The United States spent millions of dollars in promoting dissenting candidates and groups that encouraged social unrest in order to foster an atmosphere that would justify a military coup. Then they provided further millions of dollars in aid (cash, "economic development" resources, and weapons) to the military juntas that seized power in order to help them maintain power.

The U.S. certainly could have intervened more strongly than they did, I will agree with that, but that does not absolve them the fact that what they did was sufficient. They provided enough aid (and more importantly, the knowledge that the U.S. would support them post-overthrow, something far more valuable than any dollar contribution) to induce military coups. The U.S. fed the new military governments resources and support that prevented that same sort of populist sentiment from overthrowing them.




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