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Brawndo
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Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Brawndo » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:27 pm

If you're top 10% at a T25, this isn't for you so GTFO

For the rest of us:

http://barelylegalblog.blogspot.com/200 ... t-you.html

http://in-it-but-not-of-it.blogspot.com ... chool.html


Makes me wonder if I should drop out if come January I'm median or below...

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Anonymous Loser » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:32 pm

Spring of 2007?

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Brawndo » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:39 pm

Anonymous Loser wrote:Spring of 2007?


So what? If anything it's got worse since the economy went to shit.

My roommate is a 2L at the same school (T25+) as me- she's top 10%, law review, and still can't find a summer job

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby JRMjr » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:42 pm

so we have a middle of the class guy at t2, a mid-class underachiever at a t3, and a borderline t25 that was admittedly picky with work options on one of the sites. The other is a bunch of generalizations that are true unless you go to a top school.

my question is when did people ever, ever think that being middle of your class at an expensive grad school was different than being middle of your class in college? Unless you bust your ass at a top school you won't be able to pay off debt whether you live in america or on mars.

Go big (ie- good school, work hard) or go home. This only scares people that can't go for the homerun and have no confidence

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Brawndo » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:45 pm

JRMjr wrote:so we have a middle of the class guy at t2, a mid-class underachiever at a t3, and a borderline t25 that was admittedly picky with work options on one of the sites. The other is a bunch of generalizations that are true unless you go to a top school.

my question is when did people ever, ever think that being middle of your class at an expensive grad school was different than being middle of your class in college? Unless you bust your ass at a top school you won't be able to pay off debt whether you live in america or on mars.

Go big (ie- good school, work hard) or go home. This only scares people that can't go for the homerun and have no confidence


We can't all be top 10% at HYS asshole

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby spanktheduck » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:47 pm

Brawndo wrote:
JRMjr wrote:so we have a middle of the class guy at t2, a mid-class underachiever at a t3, and a borderline t25 that was admittedly picky with work options on one of the sites. The other is a bunch of generalizations that are true unless you go to a top school.

my question is when did people ever, ever think that being middle of your class at an expensive grad school was different than being middle of your class in college? Unless you bust your ass at a top school you won't be able to pay off debt whether you live in america or on mars.

Go big (ie- good school, work hard) or go home. This only scares people that can't go for the homerun and have no confidence


We can't all be top 10% at HYS asshole



TBF, that is why most people say non T14 are bad investments

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Anonymous Loser » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:49 pm

Brawndo wrote:
Anonymous Loser wrote:Spring of 2007?


So what? If anything it's got worse since the economy went to shit.

My roommate is a 2L at the same school (T25+) as me- she's top 10%, law review, and still can't find a summer job


I suppose I just felt that this point has already been made in a far more meaningful and relevant fashion in the several 30+ page threads detailing this past fall's OCI. But, if outdated articles and a anecdote about your roommate are good enough for you, well, they're good enough for me: if you are below median in January, you should definitely drop out.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:51 pm

Brawndo wrote:
JRMjr wrote:so we have a middle of the class guy at t2, a mid-class underachiever at a t3, and a borderline t25 that was admittedly picky with work options on one of the sites. The other is a bunch of generalizations that are true unless you go to a top school.

my question is when did people ever, ever think that being middle of your class at an expensive grad school was different than being middle of your class in college? Unless you bust your ass at a top school you won't be able to pay off debt whether you live in america or on mars.

Go big (ie- good school, work hard) or go home. This only scares people that can't go for the homerun and have no confidence


We can't all be top 10% at HYS asshole


I'm not going to, and would never go to, HYS. I also don't think I'll be top 25% at the t14 I am going to. Thats why people that dont get top 25% network themselves to death and put in the work. What I AM saying is that if you don't get top 25 and DONT want to work yourself to the bone networking OR get a ton of scholly, youre better off putting 10 years in at a company, working hard there, and rising through the ranks.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby XxSpyKEx » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:26 pm

Brawndo wrote:If you're top 10% at a T25, this isn't for you so GTFO

For the rest of us:

http://barelylegalblog.blogspot.com/200 ... t-you.html

http://in-it-but-not-of-it.blogspot.com ... chool.html


Makes me wonder if I should drop out if come January I'm median or below...


This guy is an idiot.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:04 pm

JRMjr wrote:so we have a middle of the class guy at t2, a mid-class underachiever at a t3, and a borderline t25 that was admittedly picky with work options on one of the sites. The other is a bunch of generalizations that are true unless you go to a top school.

my question is when did people ever, ever think that being middle of your class at an expensive grad school was different than being middle of your class in college? Unless you bust your ass at a top school you won't be able to pay off debt whether you live in america or on mars.

Go big (ie- good school, work hard) or go home. This only scares people that can't go for the homerun and have no confidence


And the 40-50% of people in the T14 that didn't get anything through OCI this year and are pushing 200k in debt.

Or the people in the top 10% at strong T1 schools who are unemployed...

So much reality fail when it comes to the optimism around here.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby SteelReserve » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:13 pm

Brawndo,

Congratulations on doing research before school. But you know what? Forget all these internet stories, even though a lot of them are true.

Your roommate's scenario should tell you something

And don't chalk up her failure to "bad interviewing". There are plenty of GOOD interviewers with those stats that don't have summer jobs, and thus will be thrown into the post-grad lion's den.

You have been warned; not by the internet; by someone you actually know!

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby Rocketman11 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:18 pm

SteelReserve wrote:Brawndo,

Congratulations on doing research before school. But you know what? Forget all these internet stories, even though a lot of them are true.


I thought you were going somewhere different after reading this part. Im glad you arent encouraging people to just "want it" more than everyone else.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby articulably suspect » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:19 pm

yelling fire in a crowded theater.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby reasonable_man » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:40 pm

What the hell is the point of this thread again? I'm confused.

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Re: Some scary articles on employment from law students grads

Postby BradyToMoss » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:34 am

Rocketman11 wrote:
SteelReserve wrote:Brawndo,

Congratulations on doing research before school. But you know what? Forget all these internet stories, even though a lot of them are true.


I thought you were going somewhere different after reading this part. Im glad you arent encouraging people to just "want it" more than everyone else.


I thought the same thing, and was terribly disappointed.

OP should drop out, if his post is any indication of his intelligence and character.




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