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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote: I'm pretty convinced that any URM not doing well this year just sucks at interviewing.

Says the guy at a T50 with top third grades and work experience.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby BruceWayne » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:30 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: I'm pretty convinced that any URM not doing well this year just sucks at interviewing.

Says the guy at a T50 with top third grades and work experience.


Unfortunately you're right. Got any tips for a fellow UVA URM student (1L) in getting out of here with a job?

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:08 pm

BruceWayne wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: I'm pretty convinced that any URM not doing well this year just sucks at interviewing.

Says the guy at a T50 with top third grades and work experience.


Unfortunately you're right. Got any tips for a fellow UVA URM student (1L) in getting out of here with a job?

Be in the top third.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby RudeDudewithAttitude » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:14 am

BruceWayne wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: I'm pretty convinced that any URM not doing well this year just sucks at interviewing.

Says the guy at a T50 with top third grades and work experience.


Unfortunately you're right. Got any tips for a fellow UVA URM student (1L) in getting out of here with a job?


Don't suck at interviewing. 8)

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Lower half T14, top 10-15% LR

15 OCI (DC)
11 CB

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Lower half T14, top 10-15% LR

15 OCI (DC)
11 CB


Congrats! What do you think was the key to landing so high up in your class?

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:26 pm

AA male, Lower T14, LR, very close to the top 10%, but not sure exact ranking.

17 on campus interviews
13 callbacks, of which I went on 6. So far 5 offers.

As for what was the key with landing so high in the class, no idea at all.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:28 pm

AA Male, Lower T14, ~Top 30%, Secondary Journal.
19 OCI Interviews,
12 callbacks, went on 6, 4 offers

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:54 pm

As much as people poo-poo Journals, it looks like it can be a good soft for URMs especially since there are so few of them on LR/Journal at many schools.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:As much as people poo-poo Journals, it looks like it can be a good soft for URMs especially since there are so few of them on LR/Journal at many schools.

? There's no control group.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby BruceWayne » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:21 am

No new info?

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:15 pm

Legit urm friend at MVPB is above median, secondary J, & has multiple offers w many top DC firms

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:33 pm

Curious about more results.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:47 pm

haven't read the thread (if I prove to be contradicted, I'll edit), but it seems to me like "URM" becomes "black people" for most firms (since most don't ask you to fill out those demographic questionnaires), because everything is done on the surface. Unless you have a Hispanic sounding name or something. (point being the URM application boost may not translate to a URM hiring boost without a box to check? Idk.)

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:haven't read the thread (if I prove to be contradicted, I'll edit), but it seems to me like "URM" becomes "black people" for most firms (since most don't ask you to fill out those demographic questionnaires), because everything is done on the surface. Unless you have a Hispanic sounding name or something. (point being the URM application boost may not translate to a URM hiring boost without a box to check? Idk.)

I have doubts about the URM hiring boost. I got trounced pretty solidly at OCI at firms that should have been targets or safeties given my numbers.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby UnTouChablE » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Legit urm friend at MVPB is above median, secondary J, & has multiple offers w many top DC firms


I need to get like your friend or like this guy

Anonymous User wrote:Lower half T14, top 10-15% LR

15 OCI (DC)
11 CB


Help me!!

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:haven't read the thread (if I prove to be contradicted, I'll edit), but it seems to me like "URM" becomes "black people" for most firms (since most don't ask you to fill out those demographic questionnaires), because everything is done on the surface. Unless you have a Hispanic sounding name or something. (point being the URM application boost may not translate to a URM hiring boost without a box to check? Idk.)

From what I experienced/heard during my OCI season, URM for firm hiring means more than black people. For one firm had an offer from, they go as far as including Persians in their category of URM. So for firm hiring, URM= anyone who isn't white. Asians are recruited just as heavily as black, latino, and native american candidates.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:01 pm

I am an Hispanic with a non-Hispanic last name. I actually had a pretty rough go at OCI. I ended up getting an offer (by the skin of my teeth!), but I was really surprised by the negative responses of two firms in particular. I have several scholarships for law school, including one scholarship from each of two large firms in my home state. I also made law review at a T20, top 10%. One of the firms in question gave me a screening interview and then no call-back, and the other firm didn't even offer me a screening interview. I get to keep the scholarships either way, so no worries.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Aqualibrium » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:22 pm

I'd say the statement about Asians being recruited just as heavily is accurate.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:haven't read the thread (if I prove to be contradicted, I'll edit), but it seems to me like "URM" becomes "black people" for most firms (since most don't ask you to fill out those demographic questionnaires), because everything is done on the surface. Unless you have a Hispanic sounding name or something. (point being the URM application boost may not translate to a URM hiring boost without a box to check? Idk.)

From what I experienced/heard during my OCI season, URM for firm hiring means more than black people. For one firm had an offer from, they go as far as including Persians in their category of URM. So for firm hiring, URM= anyone who isn't white. Asians are recruited just as heavily as black, latino, and native american candidates.


Puerto Ricans count as URM?

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:01 pm

AA female, MVPB, top 1/3, secondary journal
Screening interviews: 22 (mix of oci and a diversity fair...DO NOT SKIP DIVERSITY FAIRS)
Callbacks: 11, went on 9, declined 2
Offers: 6 (1 V5, 1 V10, the rest sprinkled throughout the V25 - V100 range)

My job search went pretty well but other AA students at my school have not had the same luck. I think it's less of a boost than people think. IMO personality and grades have way more impact. Just my experience/judging from friends' experiences.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:AA female, MVPB, top 1/3, secondary journal
Screening interviews: 22 (mix of oci and a diversity fair...DO NOT SKIP DIVERSITY FAIRS)
Callbacks: 11, went on 9, declined 2
Offers: 6 (1 V5, 1 V10, the rest sprinkled throughout the V25 - V100 range)

My job search went pretty well but other AA students at my school have not had the same luck. I think it's less of a boost than people think. IMO personality and grades have way more impact. Just my experience/judging from friends' experiences.

x1,000,000. If you're a URM, don't buy into the hype and factor that into your law school decision.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Rand M. » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:21 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:AA female, MVPB, top 1/3, secondary journal
Screening interviews: 22 (mix of oci and a diversity fair...DO NOT SKIP DIVERSITY FAIRS)
Callbacks: 11, went on 9, declined 2
Offers: 6 (1 V5, 1 V10, the rest sprinkled throughout the V25 - V100 range)

My job search went pretty well but other AA students at my school have not had the same luck. I think it's less of a boost than people think. IMO personality and grades have way more impact. Just my experience/judging from friends' experiences.

x1,000,000. If you're a URM, don't buy into the hype and factor that into your law school decision.


What do you mean by the bolded?

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:23 pm

Rand M. wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:AA female, MVPB, top 1/3, secondary journal
Screening interviews: 22 (mix of oci and a diversity fair...DO NOT SKIP DIVERSITY FAIRS)
Callbacks: 11, went on 9, declined 2
Offers: 6 (1 V5, 1 V10, the rest sprinkled throughout the V25 - V100 range)

My job search went pretty well but other AA students at my school have not had the same luck. I think it's less of a boost than people think. IMO personality and grades have way more impact. Just my experience/judging from friends' experiences.

x1,000,000. If you're a URM, don't buy into the hype and factor that into your law school decision.


What do you mean by the bolded?

I'd say that you should do the same calculus anybody else does when considering whether law school is a financially prudent decision as opposed to assuming that your chances at biglaw or anything approach 100%.

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Re: URM OCI callbacks????

Postby Rand M. » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:28 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
Rand M. wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:AA female, MVPB, top 1/3, secondary journal
Screening interviews: 22 (mix of oci and a diversity fair...DO NOT SKIP DIVERSITY FAIRS)
Callbacks: 11, went on 9, declined 2
Offers: 6 (1 V5, 1 V10, the rest sprinkled throughout the V25 - V100 range)

My job search went pretty well but other AA students at my school have not had the same luck. I think it's less of a boost than people think. IMO personality and grades have way more impact. Just my experience/judging from friends' experiences.

x1,000,000. If you're a URM, don't buy into the hype and factor that into your law school decision.


What do you mean by the bolded?

I'd say that you should do the same calculus anybody else does when considering whether law school is a financially prudent decision as opposed to assuming that your chances at biglaw or anything approach 100%.


Ah, I see.




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