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Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Luis Gomez » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:34 pm

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby makebelieve » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:44 pm

Flame? Because your spelling is horrible....

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby dakatz » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:45 pm

makebelieve wrote:Flame? Because your spelling is horrible....


He said spanish is his native language...

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Kretzy » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:05 pm

You should try your best and attend Cooley.

Also, as for advice on weather, it's quite nice in Michigan in the fall.

You don't have a Mexican law degree at 22. Make things more interesting next time. Kthx.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby bumblebeetoona » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:12 pm

Kretzy wrote:You don't have a Mexican law degree at 22. Make things more interesting next time. Kthx.


Unlike the US, Mexico law degrees are earned through undergrad. It's quite possible that OP is a 22-year-old lawyer.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Leeroy Jenkins » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:13 pm

bumblebeetoona wrote:
Kretzy wrote:You don't have a Mexican law degree at 22. Make things more interesting next time. Kthx.
Unlike the US, Mexico law degrees are earned through undergrad. It's quite possible that OP is a 22-year-old lawyer.

rofl, Kretzy = suchfail

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Kretzy » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:15 pm

Lxw wrote:
bumblebeetoona wrote:
Kretzy wrote:You don't have a Mexican law degree at 22. Make things more interesting next time. Kthx.
Unlike the US, Mexico law degrees are earned through undergrad. It's quite possible that OP is a 22-year-old lawyer.

rofl, Kretzy = suchfail


Correct. I completely discounted an LL.B. or another undergraduate law program. My beezy.

Kretzy sincerely apologizes, OP. To answer your question a little more seriously than I did at first, I'd say a 158 or so with a solid performance in your undergraduate program would put you in good position for Florida State. Best of luck.
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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Leeroy Jenkins » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:15 pm

Kretzy wrote:Correct. I completely discounted an LL.B. or another undergraduate law program. My beezy.

Don't use 'beezy' in that context.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby danquayle » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:16 pm

bumblebeetoona wrote:
Kretzy wrote:You don't have a Mexican law degree at 22. Make things more interesting next time. Kthx.


Unlike the US, Mexico law degrees are earned through undergrad. It's quite possible that OP is a 22-year-old lawyer.


Thanks for beating me to the punch. I actually think its a 5 year program, but 22 is still totally feasible. People ought to at least do a little research before being (anonymous) pricks.

And while I totally appreciate that the OP's native language is Spanish, he'll need a far better grasp of the English language if he actually wants to practice in the states.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby bumblebeetoona » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:18 pm

Luis Gomez wrote:Hi I am a mexicn attorney I am 22 and seeking admission to JD programs, so far looking at Uof Florida, Florida State, Cooley and other T4. (Need a scolarship so T14 is out of the question.).

I woud like to recive advise on weather I can get a decent job in the US after my JD. Considering spanish is my native language (both a positive and negative factor) and that I a am liscensed to practice law in mexico.

Would the law school I attend make a really big difference?

Thanks for your advice, as I really want to know my chances before I committ to such a financial burden.


If you are not a troll (and how many times have I written those words...), I will take this moment to inform you that all of your school choices are terrible.
1. Brush up on your English
2. Decide what you want to do with your degree
3. Retake the LSAT (I saw that you are at a 160) so that you can get scholarships to better schools. The ones you've selected are not good, and in the case of Cooley, outright crooks.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby lawlover829 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:19 pm

bumblebeetoona wrote:
Luis Gomez wrote:Hi I am a mexicn attorney I am 22 and seeking admission to JD programs, so far looking at Uof Florida, Florida State, Cooley and other T4. (Need a scolarship so T14 is out of the question.).

I woud like to recive advise on weather I can get a decent job in the US after my JD. Considering spanish is my native language (both a positive and negative factor) and that I a am liscensed to practice law in mexico.

Would the law school I attend make a really big difference?

Thanks for your advice, as I really want to know my chances before I committ to such a financial burden.


If you are not a troll (and how many times have I written those words...), I will take this moment to inform you that all of your school choices are terrible.
1. Brush up on your English
2. Decide what you want to do with your degree
3. Retake the LSAT (I saw that you are at a 160) so that you can get scholarships to better schools. The ones you've selected are not good, and in the case of Cooley, outright crooks.


Agree with teh above.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Leeroy Jenkins » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:22 pm

lawlover829 wrote:Agree with teh above.

didn't you quit and make an alt?

OP: voluntarily choosing to go to a T4 is almost like choosing to fail.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Luis Gomez » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:04 pm

Sorry for the spelling -"It's no excuse but I expirenced keybord malfunctioning ", and lawyers in mexico are ON AVERAGE 23 years old when they graduate from a four year, first entry, undergraduate LLB program, which gives immediate access to practice as an attorney; the real training is obtained on the job and not everyone licensed to practice does.

I did graduate with honors and with other favorable conditions, however I underscored in the LSAT due to language limitations which do not allow me to finish all sections. I am not able to overcome this disadvantage in the short term so I must keep my LSAT score as it is.

Not having the gratest LSAT score and without access to FAFSA or other federal loan programms my options are limited to public schools in Florida and schools willing to offer a sustantial scolarship, mostly T4.

I am afraid my decision might come down to attending Cooley or staying home. That is why I seeked advice on wether Cooley is worth the time investment.

P.D. Will definatley not attend Liberty.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby spondee » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:15 pm

Can you wait a year or two, reading the NY Times (or something similar) every day to improve your English language skills, and re-take the LSAT and apply?

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Luis Gomez » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:16 pm

bumblebeetoona wrote:
Luis Gomez wrote:Hi I am a mexicn attorney I am 22 and seeking admission to JD programs, so far looking at Uof Florida, Florida State, Cooley and other T4. (Need a scolarship so T14 is out of the question.).

I woud like to recive advise on weather I can get a decent job in the US after my JD. Considering spanish is my native language (both a positive and negative factor) and that I a am liscensed to practice law in mexico.

Would the law school I attend make a really big difference?

Thanks for your advice, as I really want to know my chances before I committ to such a financial burden.


If you are not a troll (and how many times have I written those words...), I will take this moment to inform you that all of your school choices are terrible.
1. Brush up on your English
2. Decide what you want to do with your degree
3. Retake the LSAT (I saw that you are at a 160) so that you can get scholarships to better schools. The ones you've selected are not good, and in the case of Cooley, outright crooks.


Thanks for the advice, would you mind explaining why FSU and U of F are terrible options, I am exited about those two options.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby lapolicia » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:21 pm

Why don't you go for an LLM? That's the degree that most foreign educated lawyers get when they want to practice in the U.S. LLM Admissions are much friendlier to foreigners in terms of language skills and the programs are usually specially tailored to those who already have foreign law degrees.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby teaadntoast » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:23 pm

Luis Gomez wrote: Thanks for the advice, would you mind explaining why FSU and U of F are terrible options, I am exited about those two options.


State schools are going to be stingy with scholarship money generally, and will have very little in the way of aid for international students.

As far as jobs are concerned, your options will be limited to Florida and maybe bits of Georgia and Alabama.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Luis Gomez » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:24 pm

spondee wrote:Can you wait a year or two, reading the NY Times (or something similar) every day to improve your English language skills, and re-take the LSAT and apply?


All ready tried, my english is not as terrible as my previous post might suggest the points I loose in the reading section might improve but after carefully reading the logic games I dont have much time left to solve them, and that is something very difficult to overcome since I would need to think in english during the test and avoid making unvoluntary time consuming translations.

Waiting two years although reasonable is out of the question since I have financial support from my father only if I start now that my other brothers are not attending college. I have LL.M options in Europe in very good law schools but had always dream to be an attorney in both Mexico and the U.S. to be able to work with immigrants and mexican corporations.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby shadowfish » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:26 pm

What about doing an LLM and trying to transfer into the JD program at whatever school you do your LLM at? I would imagine admissions criteria is less stringent for foreign LLMs, and I don't believe you need the LSAT at all for that. Of course, make sure it's a school that lets you transfer into the JD program first.

Also, FSU and U of F are the sort of schools (correct me if I'm wrong?) that you have to do quite (very?) well to get a decent job when you come out. Even if you get a scholarship, it seems to me that the time would just be wasted. A Floridian might know more about this, though, and I definitely can't say what the Mexico connection will be able to do for you.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby Luis Gomez » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:30 pm

lapolicia wrote:Why don't you go for an LLM? That's the degree that most foreign educated lawyers get when they want to practice in the U.S. LLM Admissions are much friendlier to foreigners in terms of language skills and the programs are usually specially tailored to those who already have foreign law degrees.


I tried that too, I was admitted to Georgtown and NYU, but thought their one year programs did not cover all the aspects needed to practice law in the U.S. I got 10 K offer from NYU but for its Singapour program wich does not ensure acces to the bar exam. Other than that I was not offered any money. Maybe I should have applyed to lower ranked schools.

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby bwv812 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:22 pm

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Re: Mexican attorney's chances of decent job after J.D.

Postby strawberrysmoothie » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:26 am

I don't know. Maybe OP's chances in Florida as far as biglaw work (if that is what you are doing - not sure if you meant work for Mexican corps and then pro bono immigrant work?) are better than some may allude coming from UF and Florida State, if you are only looking to work in Florida. Doesn't say, Holland & Knight and Weil have pretty sizeable FL offices? I'd imagine they'd recruit a lot from regional firms.

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