I don’t want to throw a monkey’s wrench here but I really don’t think expressing your disgruntlement over your fellow law students in a public forum and having other schools watching the show is the smartest idea. Unfortunately it is so easy to speculate and make frivolous allegations without discovery. Rabbi Klein v. Goldman Sachs etc, reference omitted.
Since some of the names have been disclosed already I would like to offer some facts I know to the best of my knowledge as an insider and do a reality check here.
The AJD class took 17 credits over 6 courses during the summer, one of which is a 3-credit pass/fail course. So essentially the AJDs are getting a GPA out of 14 credits and every single grade is going to bump the GPA up and down substantially. There is at least one tough grader in the summer, namely Prof Redish, for civ pro. As far as I know, you need to score 110 out of 150 in order to secure a B+ in this course. The same raw score did translate to an A+ last year in the regular class. There is at least one person in the class who scored 109 and got a B and there are several Cs I have heard of. I think a good half the class or probably more got a score of B and under. You figure out whether that is an unfair advantage in a class of 27. And here is a quotation from Prof Redish: “in the past I gave a lot of B+s because of the mandatory curve, but they really should be C+s.” We don’t like the results but have to accept the fact that a brilliant prof simply wants to gauge his students against his level of smartness.
To show you how that would impact the GPA, let’s do some simple math. Assume the AJD has a favorable curve with a mean of 3.5 instead of 3.3 for the normal class (which I seriously doubt to be true as I have heard a good number of Bs and B-s in all courses we took during the summer). The net impact of a B score in civ pro is to drive that average down 0.11 to 3.39. If the average before civ pro is 3.4, the GPA goes down 3.31 to with a B.
Here is the calculation if you are not with me.
Average of 3.5 in 11 credits. And a B score (or 3) in a 3-credit course means a 0.5 loss from that average. 0.5*3/14=0.11 loss when averaged over all courses. Similar math for starting at 3.4.
I don’t have the exact distribution of the grades but that is a reasonable estimate and it is likely that at least half of the class (if not more) will be no more than 3.39 at best. One of the top performers, j-mussey, is actually not participating in OCI, so if you are claiming that 12 students with a GPA over 3.39 in one semester of law school are taking away a chunk of callbacks from a pool of 200+ with 2 semesters of grades JUST BECAUSE of the f**** GPA, I would seriously doubt your judgment.
Let me share my personal experiences during the OCI. There are actually several disadvantages I have observed of this AJD class, one being that we didn’t have much time to prepare cus OCI started right after our final exams literally. Another one is that some firms are definitely skeptical about this new program (of course no one explicitly said that but you can read between the lines). Firms are also skeptical about having only one semester of grades on the transcript. The skepticism is totally legitimate as the legal profession has been really conservative.
Believe it or not I actually found that having long years of work experience is a double-edged sword (I have an advanced degree and 8 years of work experience). There are some firms that are extremely impressed by it (all of which actually have big practice in the field I have worked for, 3 out of 14 interviews I had) and there are others that do not like it at all (again no one explicitly says that but you can read between the lines, at least 5 of the 14 I can tell).
Here is another observation I made during my callbacks. Apparently Yale/Harvard/Stanford are always at a better position than NU. Columbia and NYU are so not only because of ranking but also because of location. NYU students actually got about 20 interviews on average during OCI vs. 13 at NU. Considering a lot of folks are looking at NYC market which is still the largest one, the disadvantage is obvious. For the callbacks I had in NYC, the interviewees are predominantly from Harvard, Columbia and NYU but few if any from other top 14. I met about 10-20 other students on each occasion.
I really think what matters is the tough economy. I thought I would be able to launch more callbacks with my credentials but I did not, and I still don’t have an offer yet. Firms are speculating as they go through the process. They have time to entertain and you just have to face the reality. What you really need to do is to spend a lot of extra time trying to find opportunities outside of OCI.
Last but not least, NEVER BURN YOUR BRIDGES! You will find how incredibly small the professional circle is. You should never underestimate the importance of networking and the alumni are easiest to reach particularly in professional schools. The AJD class is designed to benefit the entire NU community but not the create rivals among law students.