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Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 pm

From what I've heard, private firms seldom if ever drug test their employees (including summer student hires) whereas govt. positions almost always do. Can someone with experience applying for jobs and going through OCI etc. comment on this?

Also, do they give you the drug test when you are interviewing in the Fall, or is it when you start working in the Summer? Any experiences with whether hair vs. urine tests are more common?

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:09 am

Urine tests seem to be more common. From what I've seen, for summer interns the testing takes place between the time of offer and start of summer.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Urine tests seem to be more common. From what I've seen, for summer interns the testing takes place between the time of offer and start of summer.


So assuming you need a month or two to clean your system out, we should probably quit smoking pot by about September or October to be on the safe side? Bummer. I was hoping to be able to push it to Christmas break.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:32 pm

There are firms who drug test?

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby zettsscores40 » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:38 pm

Most of the partners are doing blow off Vietnamese hookers in their offices so I doubt they're going to care if you toke up once in a while. That said, if you're in your mid-20s it's probably time to drop the bong maaaannnn.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:55 am

Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:19 am

reasonable_man wrote:Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...


you're a lawyer? i thought you were just an asshat.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:02 am

Anonymous User wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...


you're a lawyer? i thought you were just an asshat.



I think he's a paralegal who used to be a badboy. Anyway, I can respect the fact that he doesn't want anyone to get screwed over, someone who has or has not cleaned up their act and can give advice based on experience is still a wise soul in my book.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:50 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...


you're a lawyer? i thought you were just an asshat.



I think he's a paralegal who used to be a badboy. Anyway, I can respect the fact that he doesn't want anyone to get screwed over, someone who has or has not cleaned up their act and can give advice based on experience is still a wise soul in my book.


oh ok. so he is an asshat.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...


you're a lawyer? i thought you were just an asshat.



I think he's a paralegal who used to be a badboy. Anyway, I can respect the fact that he doesn't want anyone to get screwed over, someone who has or has not cleaned up their act and can give advice based on experience is still a wise soul in my book.


oh ok. so he is an asshat.


No. I don't think so, whether it's weed or blow, it's high school shit or early ug in my opinion.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:43 am

I might be an asshat, but honestly.. at a certain point, its time to grow up and stop getting high at every possible turn to the point where you are worried about it hurting your chances at getting a job... One point at which to do that might be when you are becoming a fucking lawyer... Not all lawyers run around sniffing coke off hookers asses and ripping bongs.. The majority don't...

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby hds2388 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:23 am

reasonable_man wrote:I might be an asshat, but honestly.. at a certain point, its time to grow up and stop getting high at every possible turn to the point where you are worried about it hurting your chances at getting a job... One point at which to do that might be when you are becoming a fucking lawyer... Not all lawyers run around sniffing coke off hookers asses and ripping bongs.. The majority don't...


Well, I mean....OP didn't say he was getting high all the time....so that's rather presumptious

furthermore,
reasonable_man wrote:Its funny... Some of us lawyers actually take the oath to uphold defend and further the laws and constitutions of our state and country fairly seriously... even the annoying ones like drug laws.. You might take thirty seconds to think about the fact that you are going to be an officer of the court and it might be time to start respecting the law, instead of figuring out ways to skate around it...

Just a thought...


I don't generally think that trying to gain employment by not failing a drug test is skating around the law. I think it's mostly just trying to get a job...

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:48 am

to the OP, if you want to be able to get a job and not worry about drug testing, become a fucking drug dealer

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:10 am

I am four years clean and sober myself and I echo the concern that if you're worried about drugs affecting your employment, there might be something wrong... So I would like to very gently suggest the OP consider attending an AA meeting... Just to listen.... There are open meetings available for anyone to attend, you don't have to believe you have a problem.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:44 am

Anonymous User wrote:I am four years clean and sober myself and I echo the concern that if you're worried about drugs affecting your employment, there might be something wrong... So I would like to very gently suggest the OP consider attending an AA meeting... Just to listen.... There are open meetings available for anyone to attend, you don't have to believe you have a problem.

PS the reason I suggested AA rather than Narcotics Anonymous, Cocaine Anonymous, or Marijuana Anonymous is that there are tons more AA meetings and it's the same program... A huge percentage of the ppl in the groups I attend have dual addictions...just Google AA and the count where you live for a meeting schedule Anyway... The post was a red flag to me and I just couldn't NOT say something. Thanks for listening...

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby 98234872348 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:50 am

ITT: Rampant misuse of the anonymous function...

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:56 am

mistergoft wrote:ITT: Rampant misuse of the anonymous function...


+1

I don't think the Anonymous feature was created so one could namelessly add insight such as "oh ok. so he is an asshat.".

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:59 am

So stick to coke in law school, and skip the pot is what I'm hearing from this thread?

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:09 am

I am a paralegal at a large NYC office of a big firm and we do not drug test here or at any of our offices (in the US or abroad). I have friends who are paralegals in the Manhattan DA's office and they've said that they were tested once, after they were offered the job, and that as far as they know, there were only subsequent tests if someone's behavior warranted suspicion.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:15 am

Helmholtz wrote:
mistergoft wrote:ITT: Rampant misuse of the anonymous function...


+1

I don't think the Anonymous feature was created so one could namelessly add insight such as "oh ok. so he is an asshat.".



+1

Yeah I really hope this isn't where the Anon function is headed... Besides.. Why not call me an asshat and be up front about your identity? lol

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:So stick to coke in law school, and skip the pot is what I'm hearing from this thread?


is that really all you got from this thread?

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:34 am

Well the mods can see who made the posts and if they see a problem they can act accordingly.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:08 am

reasonable_man wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
mistergoft wrote:ITT: Rampant misuse of the anonymous function...


+1

I don't think the Anonymous feature was created so one could namelessly add insight such as "oh ok. so he is an asshat.".



+1

Yeah I really hope this isn't where the Anon function is headed... Besides.. Why not call me an asshat and be up front about your identity? lol


You're an asshat, reasonable_man.

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby reasonable_man » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:56 am

Helmholtz wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
mistergoft wrote:ITT: Rampant misuse of the anonymous function...


+1

I don't think the Anonymous feature was created so one could namelessly add insight such as "oh ok. so he is an asshat.".



+1

Yeah I really hope this isn't where the Anon function is headed... Besides.. Why not call me an asshat and be up front about your identity? lol



You're an asshat, reasonable_man.


I respect the public and outward way in which you chose to voice your opinion. ;)

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Re: Let's talk drug testing

Postby 06072010 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:04 pm

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The anonymous feature is not to be used to call people asshats. This is your final warning.




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