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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:Is it harder for international students to get hired?


He already answered this:

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Anonymous User wrote:How does your firm distinguish at OCI between US and non US residents? Are international students evaluated very differently or does it depend on the country/school?


I'm not sure there is a formal split between US and non-US residents, I'm just guessing but I don't think we see enough non-US resident applicants to have a set way it's dealt with. I'd guess it's more determined by the individual. I really don't know for sure, because I've never seen a non-US resident applicant.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:21 pm

Just did interviews today for my law school's OCI, taking questions for a bit.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:24 pm

3rdYrLitigator wrote:Just did interviews today for my law school's OCI, taking questions for a bit.


did you make cb calls yet?

what were the best questions people asked you?

thanks!

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 03121202698008 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:25 pm

How does the number of positions for this year compare to last?

Was this at a T14?

Did anyone do anything completely stupid that ruined their shot in your mind? (Purple suit or something...)

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
3rdYrLitigator wrote:Just did interviews today for my law school's OCI, taking questions for a bit.


did you make cb calls yet?

what were the best questions people asked you?

thanks!


No, I don't have the authority to decide on CBs myself, no one does, not even the hiring partner. There will be a meeting where everyone is discussed and then CB decisions will be made.

Good questions involved knowledge of the firm. Things like "Your firm's X practice seems interesting because they do Y, what do you think about ..."

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:27 pm

blowhard wrote:How does the number of positions for this year compare to last?

Was this at a T14?

Did anyone do anything completely stupid that ruined their shot in your mind? (Purple suit or something...)


Target is the same number.

Yes.

Yes, mistakes on their resume.

Edit: I'll also add not knowing anything about the firm or what the firm does.
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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 2011Cycle » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:28 pm

Have you seen a bias against over 40 years of age 2L's/3L's for permanent BigLaw positions?

Thank you

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:29 pm

2011Cycle wrote:Have you seen a bias against over 40 years of age 2L's/3L's for permanent BigLaw positions?

Thank you


Not particularly, but I didn't see any candidates like that. I'd want a good answer for why they want to be a lawyer.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 2011Cycle » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:30 pm

Thank you

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:34 pm

How are transfers into T-14 schools generally treated? I went to a run of the mill state school for undergrad and 1L was at a school ranked in the 50-70 range a few hours from my target market (finished top 5%).
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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 03121202698008 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:34 pm

3rdYrLitigator wrote:Yes, mistakes on their resume.


What kind of mistakes are we talking about? Typos, made-up-stuff, not being able to talk to it?

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How are transfers into T-14 schools generally treated? I went to a run of the mill state school for undergrad and 1L was at a school ranked in the 50-70 range a few hours from my target market (finished top 5%).


Transfers are generally treated as if they were still at their old school (so you'd be treated like a top 5% student from your 50-70).

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:37 pm

blowhard wrote:
3rdYrLitigator wrote:Yes, mistakes on their resume.


What kind of mistakes are we talking about? Typos, made-up-stuff, not being able to talk to it?


Mostly typos, inconsistent formatting, stuff like that.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby let/them/eat/cake » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:41 pm

Does your firm have a target GPA range for the school at which you are interviewing? If so, do most/all of the candidates in the range/near the top of the range receive a CB so long as they don't come off as total goobers in the interview, or is it a more nuanced balance of acceptable grades and interviewing prowess?

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 2009 Prospective » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:42 pm

Besides grades and credentials alone, what typically distinguishes those who receive callbacks from the rest?

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:44 pm

let/them/eat/cake wrote:Does your firm have a target GPA range for the school at which you are interviewing? If so, do most/all of the candidates in the range/near the top of the range receive a CB so long as they don't come off as total goobers in the interview, or is it a more nuanced balance of acceptable grades and interviewing prowess?


There's an unofficial GPA, but it's more like a minimum requirement. Your GPA just gets you in the door, you definitely need to do well in the interview. A 4.3 and a middling personality won't get a callback.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:46 pm

2009 Prospective wrote:Besides grades and credentials alone, what typically distinguishes those who receive callbacks from the rest?


Like the last answer, GPA is just one factor at least these days. You need to have a personality I wouldn't mind being around 12 hours a day. Back in the day a high GPA and an ok personality would get you a callback. These days the firm is a lot more selective about who they bring back.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby luthersloan » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:14 pm

I am curious, what sorts of things indicate to you in a brief screening interview that a person has a I can stand being around you 12 hours-a-day personalty? Are there things that stand out in your memory? Or is just being able to carry on a pleasant conversation during the interview?

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby Sell Manilla » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:22 pm

luthersloan wrote:I am curious, what sorts of things indicate to you in a brief screening interview that a person has a I can stand being around you 12 hours-a-day personalty? Are there things that stand out in your memory? Or is just being able to carry on a pleasant conversation during the interview?


+1.

Also, on the flip side, what should be avoided
[not obvious dick-ishness, but subtle personality traits that are undesirable]

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:25 pm

luthersloan wrote:I am curious, what sorts of things indicate to you in a brief screening interview that a person has a I can stand being around you 12 hours-a-day personalty? Are there things that stand out in your memory? Or is just being able to carry on a pleasant conversation during the interview?


It's hard to quantify. It's a lot easier to point out what makes me think that I couldn't stand being around someone 12 hours a day. Being boring, answering my questions with one word answers, not being able to just run with the direction of the conversation, not listening to the interviewers, being overly confident, not making eye contact, that kind of thing. The good interviewees are engaging, attentive, and listen well enough to keep a conversation going, so I'm not just going through a checklist of questions. If I start looking at my watch before 20-25 minutes have passed, the interview is not going well.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:28 pm

Sell Manilla wrote:
luthersloan wrote:I am curious, what sorts of things indicate to you in a brief screening interview that a person has a I can stand being around you 12 hours-a-day personalty? Are there things that stand out in your memory? Or is just being able to carry on a pleasant conversation during the interview?


+1.

Also, on the flip side, what should be avoided
[not obvious dick-ishness, but subtle personality traits that are undesirable]


Along with my previous post avoid fidgeting, saying "um" or "like" a lot, not having answers to the stock interviewer questions (good ones are posted on a thread in this forum), and looking bored even though you probably will be by your 2nd or 3rd interview. Dress appropriately as well, I heard some other interviewers from another firm commenting on some of the students' dress and that can definitely stand out in a bad way.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 2011Cycle » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:29 pm

Please rank the favorableness of the following two 2L's:

1. Top 30% at T4-14
2. Top 5% and Law review at T25-40?

Thanks

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 3rdYrLitigator » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:33 pm

2011Cycle wrote:Please rank the favorableness of the following two 2L's:

1. Top 30% at T4-14
2. Top 5% and Law review at T25-40?

Thanks


I think those two would be roughly equal. However, we don't do OCI at a lot of the T25-40 so those kids won't even get a shot at an interview.

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:34 pm

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Re: Biglaw lawyer taking questions

Postby 2011Cycle » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:37 pm

Thanks.

Follow-up to favorableness question.

To your knowledge are the T25-50 OCI's shunned by the US Attorney and government agencies such as the SEC?

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