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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:24 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:Most of the time if I pick up a suit and it's 3-button I don't even try it on. But sometimes there are some lower cut ones I like. But I wouldn't mind if all 3-button suits were burned.


See, I've usually been 2-button all the way. Never owned a 3-piece anything, but I let the guy who was fitting me talk me into it. It did look pretty good on me, so we'll see.


Just leave the top button open, it'll look a lot better. If it looks loose that way, have a tailor bring in the sides so that it still sticks to your body with the top button undone.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:25 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:nay. High cut FTMFL.


Give me an example of a 3-button that you'd approve of.


Decent 3-button cut: http://www.bluefly.com/Gucci-navy-wool- ... detail.fly

Bad 3-button cut: http://www.bluefly.com/Armani-Collezion ... detail.fly

Again, I would just avoid 3-buttons altogether.


I am going to go pick it up in about an hour, and I don't recall exactly how low the cut was. I think it was relatively low, otherwise I wouldn't have liked it. I absolutely loved the gray one I got. I wouldn't wear it to an interview (a tad too light in color), but it would be a great suit to wear on the job or to any other type of event.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:25 pm

GodSpeed wrote:http://www.bluefly.com/Gucci-black-herringbone-wool-3-button-suit-with-flat-front-trousers/cat20308/301106401/detail.fly?referer=ca_froogle&cm_mmc=ca_froogle-_-na-_-mens_suits-_-301106401&PROMO=promo850024&mr:trackingCode=FDB013D7-E581-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA

not even thrilled with that.


Perfect demonstration of top button left undone to mitigate high cut of 3-button suit. Looks way better.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:26 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:nay. High cut FTMFL.


Give me an example of a 3-button that you'd approve of.


Decent 3-button cut: http://www.bluefly.com/Gucci-navy-wool- ... detail.fly

Bad 3-button cut: http://www.bluefly.com/Armani-Collezion ... detail.fly

Again, I would just avoid 3-buttons altogether.



+1

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:26 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:Most of the time if I pick up a suit and it's 3-button I don't even try it on. But sometimes there are some lower cut ones I like. But I wouldn't mind if all 3-button suits were burned.


See, I've usually been 2-button all the way. Never owned a 3-piece anything, but I let the guy who was fitting me talk me into it. It did look pretty good on me, so we'll see.


Just leave the top button open, it'll look a lot better. If it looks loose that way, have a tailor bring in the sides so that it still sticks to your body with the top button undone.


Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:27 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

one of the many reasons i dislike 3 button.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:27 pm

Can someone in this thread please explain to me: What is a "power tie" exactly? I've heard that a lot of times and had one or two picked out for me, but would love to understand what makes a tie a "power tie" so that I can actually find ones I like myself.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:28 pm

GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

one of the many reasons i dislike 3 button.

+1. I even questioned myself as I bought it, but I told myself it would be nice to have a 3-button in addition to my two 2-buttons. Oh well, diversity is almost always a good thing, both in law school admissions and in apparel!

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:30 pm

romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

one of the many reasons i dislike 3 button.

+1. I even questioned myself as I bought it, but I told myself it would be nice to have a 3-button in addition to my two 2-buttons. Oh well, diversity is almost always a good thing, both in law school admissions and in apparel!

and stocks!

I seriously need to diversify. All 2 button, 2 vent suits :?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:31 pm

romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

one of the many reasons i dislike 3 button.

+1. I even questioned myself as I bought it, but I told myself it would be nice to have a 3-button in addition to my two 2-buttons. Oh well, diversity is almost always a good thing, both in law school admissions and in apparel!


I wrote about hating fashion rules, but this is one rule I abide by: sometimes, always, never.

As in, top button is sometimes fastened, middle button always, bottom button NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, never.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:32 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Should I just leave the top undone, or both the bottom AND the top undone and just button the middle? I feel like that would look sloppy.

one of the many reasons i dislike 3 button.

+1. I even questioned myself as I bought it, but I told myself it would be nice to have a 3-button in addition to my two 2-buttons. Oh well, diversity is almost always a good thing, both in law school admissions and in apparel!


I wrote about hating fashion rules, but this is one rule I abide by: sometimes, always, never.

As in, top button is sometimes fastened, middle button always, bottom button NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, never.


Yes, totally agreed. That's why I was a bit confused by the "unbutton the top" comment, just because picturing it in my head was awkward.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:34 pm

Waterman47 wrote:I wrote about hating fashion rules, but this is one rule I abide by: sometimes, always, never.

As in, top button is sometimes fastened, middle button always, bottom button NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, never.


What about if you are a college basketball coach? I believe the rule for them is:

1st timeout: Unbutton jacket
2nd timeout: Remove jacket
3rd timeout: Roll up sleeves
After halftime: Loosen tie

:lol:

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:38 pm

Speaking of basketball, I noticed that the trend of horribly high cut 6-button suits has died out, for the most part.

2006 NBA Draft:

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2009 NBA Draft:

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:48 pm

James Bond wrote:
jrs12 wrote:Pufer,

I've pretty much agreed with everything that you said on this thread until the button-down rant. While the aesthetics are debateable, the BD stigma you describe is simply nonexistent in the United States at this point, at least east of the Rockies. You might as well berate people for not wearing hats outdoors. As Paul Fussell pointed out (yes, I know he wasn't right about everything), the button-down collar is now almost an upper-class calling card. It's also an extraordinarily conservative choice. Personally, I like it for business, because it seems to send the message that you're there to work, not to fuss about your clothes.

For an evening social event, sure, I'll go with a spread collar.


I'm not going to find and read whatever "rant" you're talking about, but button down collars are made to be worn without a tie. That's their entire purpose. Wearing one with a tie makes you look like a dweeb, not a conservative. The rule is, buttons - no tie and tie - no buttons.



Please inform Brooks Brothers and J. Press of your revelation regarding button down collars. Its perfectly acceptable to wear a button down collar with a tie and suit. Its a traditional preppy look.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:50 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
James Bond wrote:I'm not going to find and read whatever "rant" you're talking about, but button down collars are made to be worn without a tie. That's their entire purpose. Wearing one with a tie makes you look like a dweeb, not a conservative. The rule is, buttons - no tie and tie - no buttons.



Please inform Brooks Brothers and J. Press of your revelation regarding button down collars. Its perfectly acceptable to wear a button down collar with a tie and suit. Its a traditional preppy look.


Yeah I have seen ties with button-downs many times on BB.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:04 pm

romothesavior wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Sorry, but wading through this fragmented thread is kinda painful, so I will ask it here for whoever is willing to respond: how much should I be looking to spend on a decent, sturdy suit for law school interivews and events? (general price range)

$500, to throw out a number.


That's about what I thought. Okay, that's helpful... thanks. I'll probably read this whole thread when I'm ready to buy. For now, I'm just trying to budget for one.


Plan on $500-$600, but, I'd recommend staying away from purchasing online unless you have a very good tailor that you know and trust. Depending on the look that you want, you can try and catch the sales at Brooks Brothers where they generally have good tailors. Or, depending where you are, and whether or not you mind a traditional look, hit up J. Press when they run their sales. Otherwise, find a good, local suit store and avoid department stores.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:54 pm

Waterman47 wrote:Speaking of basketball, I noticed that the trend of horribly high cut 6-button suits has died out, for the most part.

2006 NBA Draft:

Image

2009 NBA Draft:

Image


For some reason, basketball players have the absolute worst taste in suits.

Take a fashion top (but no other tips) from Arod:

--ImageRemoved--

That's a great 3 button suit.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:57 pm

Another question for the fashion gurus...

I bought a decent reversible belt with a one of those buckle-type things on the front (not an actual belt buckle... a good term for it escapes me. Just a very standard, subtle belt with a metal front.) Well I made the mistake of wearing this belt at my serving job one night and after leaning against the counter multiple times, I scratched the bottom part of the belt. The top half of the belt looks normal, but the bottom half is glossy, as if the outer-coating has been stripped off.

Have I ruined this belt, or is there any way to salvage it so it doesn't look stupid?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby yinz » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:59 pm

romothesavior wrote:Have I ruined this belt, or is there any way to salvage it so it doesn't look stupid?


I wouldn't stunt a scoffed belt to an interview, but for weddings or night out wustlin, it's fine.

One caveat: anything you wear may look stupid, so different rules may apply.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:00 pm

yinz wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Have I ruined this belt, or is there any way to salvage it so it doesn't look stupid?


I wouldn't stunt a scoffed belt to an interview, but for weddings or night out wustlin, it's fine.

One caveat: anything you wear may look stupid, so different rules may apply.


Nothing I wear looks stupid, yinz. I'm all about class.

And I wouldn't wear this to an interview anyway. But in its current state, I am hesitant to even wear it with a suit or with a classy button-down. I'm thinking about just taking a set of keys and stripping off the coating on top too, but idk if that is wise. :D

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:02 pm

GodSpeed wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:Speaking of basketball, I noticed that the trend of horribly high cut 6-button suits has died out, for the most part.

2006 NBA Draft:

Image

2009 NBA Draft:

Image


For some reason, basketball players have the absolute worst taste in suits.

Take a fashion top (but no other tips) from Arod:

--ImageRemoved--

That's a great 3 button suit.


Like the tie.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:03 pm

romothesavior wrote:
yinz wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Have I ruined this belt, or is there any way to salvage it so it doesn't look stupid?


I wouldn't stunt a scoffed belt to an interview, but for weddings or night out wustlin, it's fine.

One caveat: anything you wear may look stupid, so different rules may apply.


Nothing I wear looks stupid, yinz. I'm all about class.

And I wouldn't wear this to an interview anyway. But in its current state, I am hesitant to even wear it with a suit or with a classy button-down. I'm thinking about just taking a set of keys and stripping off the coating on top too, but idk if that is wise. :D


I don't exactly understand what happened to the belt or what it looks like, but I think it's totally a judgment call. If it's barely noticeable, of if it's noticeable but doesn't look bad, I'd wear it. Might even add some character. But if it looks like it has been damaged, and not in a good way, either make it even or just toss it.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:04 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:Speaking of basketball, I noticed that the trend of horribly high cut 6-button suits has died out, for the most part.

2006 NBA Draft:

Image

2009 NBA Draft:

Image


For some reason, basketball players have the absolute worst taste in suits.

Take a fashion top (but no other tips) from Arod:

--ImageRemoved--

That's a great 3 button suit.


Like the tie.


Pretty sure it's a RL tie. Almost bought one but ended up passing.

And I love the cut and fit of the suit but I hate wide chalk stripes. Looks too Mafia-ish IMO, and not in a good way.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:26 pm

yeah, i'm still undecided about them. I think I'd get one just because it's something different, but not because I love it. To me, it just seems like it's cheap, because it's as tight. It looks like the fabric is stretched out and/or not straight or something

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HJO » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:41 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
James Bond wrote:
jrs12 wrote:Pufer,

I've pretty much agreed with everything that you said on this thread until the button-down rant. While the aesthetics are debateable, the BD stigma you describe is simply nonexistent in the United States at this point, at least east of the Rockies. You might as well berate people for not wearing hats outdoors. As Paul Fussell pointed out (yes, I know he wasn't right about everything), the button-down collar is now almost an upper-class calling card. It's also an extraordinarily conservative choice. Personally, I like it for business, because it seems to send the message that you're there to work, not to fuss about your clothes.

For an evening social event, sure, I'll go with a spread collar.


I'm not going to find and read whatever "rant" you're talking about, but button down collars are made to be worn without a tie. That's their entire purpose. Wearing one with a tie makes you look like a dweeb, not a conservative. The rule is, buttons - no tie and tie - no buttons.



Please inform Brooks Brothers and J. Press of your revelation regarding button down collars. Its perfectly acceptable to wear a button down collar with a tie and suit. Its a traditional preppy look.


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