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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:41 pm

Get another red tie

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:43 pm

GodSpeed wrote:Get another red tie

+1. Blue suit - Red Tie combo, charcoal suit - red tie combo, white shirt - red tie combo. All FTMFW.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Mr. Fancy » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:48 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:You might be able to pull of a gold. What ties do you already have/are you willing to go out and pick something up?


I am not going to wear a gold tie to OCI. The ties that are conservative enough to wear to OCI are black, dark grey, dark navy, navy, and red. I have multiples of each. I am willing to go out a buy a new one if I see something I like better though.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:51 pm

schrutebeetfarms wrote:
zettsscores40 wrote:You might be able to pull of a gold. What ties do you already have/are you willing to go out and pick something up?


I am not going to wear a gold tie to OCI. The ties that are conservative enough to wear to OCI are black, dark grey, dark navy, navy, and red. I have multiples of each. I am willing to go out a buy a new one if I see something I like better though.

I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby aIvin adams » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:55 pm

HenryKillinger wrote:I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.


what if yer on a mission from god?

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i wish i had more occasion to wear my narrow black tie. mostly just oct 31.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:57 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
HenryKillinger wrote:I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.


what if yer on a mission from god?

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i wish i had more occasion to wear my narrow black tie. mostly just oct 31.

Only if you pronounce 'God' as 'Gahd' in classic Blues Brothers/Chicago fashion.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby M20009 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:00 pm

HenryKillinger wrote:
schrutebeetfarms wrote:
zettsscores40 wrote:You might be able to pull of a gold. What ties do you already have/are you willing to go out and pick something up?


I am not going to wear a gold tie to OCI. The ties that are conservative enough to wear to OCI are black, dark grey, dark navy, navy, and red. I have multiples of each. I am willing to go out a buy a new one if I see something I like better though.

I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.


Actually that is what I do in order to gain sympathy (if interviewer is female) or so the interviewer (if male) thinks I will show up for work no matter what. I always casually mention, during post-interview small talk, that I have to rush out to be a pallbearer at my [insert relative here]'s funeral.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:13 pm

HenryKillinger wrote:
schrutebeetfarms wrote:
zettsscores40 wrote:You might be able to pull of a gold. What ties do you already have/are you willing to go out and pick something up?


I am not going to wear a gold tie to OCI. The ties that are conservative enough to wear to OCI are black, dark grey, dark navy, navy, and red. I have multiples of each. I am willing to go out a buy a new one if I see something I like better though.

I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:25 pm

M20009 wrote:
HenryKillinger wrote:
schrutebeetfarms wrote:
zettsscores40 wrote:You might be able to pull of a gold. What ties do you already have/are you willing to go out and pick something up?


I am not going to wear a gold tie to OCI. The ties that are conservative enough to wear to OCI are black, dark grey, dark navy, navy, and red. I have multiples of each. I am willing to go out a buy a new one if I see something I like better though.

I guess you could wear a black tie to an interview if you want to look like you're gong to a funeral afterward.


Actually that is what I do in order to gain sympathy (if interviewer is female) or so the interviewer (if male) thinks I will show up for work no matter what. I always casually mention, during post-interview small talk, that I have to rush out to be a pallbearer at my [insert relative here]'s funeral.

I prefer to wear a Bolo tie to hint that I'm a rootin'-tootin' good time and then throw out random vocab words like Charlie on Always Sunny.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:32 pm

amyLAchemist wrote:In addition to being OCI appropriate, men in conservative suits are hot. Yet another reason to follow the advice of GodSpeed.

I am a fan of charcoal suit, plain maroon tie, white shirt. And please make sure your jacket sleeves are shorter than your shirt sleeves. And polish your spiffy black shoes. And wear a friggin belt. Oh, how I love observing OCI.

Who wouldn't wear a belt? Even if you're pants are the right size, isn't it kind of a requirement for suits?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:34 pm

A belt is a required accessory with a suit. Ideally it should fit fine without but I can't imagine wearing a suit without a belt.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:38 pm

amyLAchemist wrote:
HenryKillinger wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:In addition to being OCI appropriate, men in conservative suits are hot. Yet another reason to follow the advice of GodSpeed.

I am a fan of charcoal suit, plain maroon tie, white shirt. And please make sure your jacket sleeves are shorter than your shirt sleeves. And polish your spiffy black shoes. And wear a friggin belt. Oh, how I love observing OCI.

Who wouldn't wear a belt? Even if you're pants are the right size, isn't it kind of a requirement for suits?


You'd be surprised what people do and don't do. I helped the some of the boys accessorize for OCI last year. The sock situation was equally entertaining.

Any white socks with black shoes?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby aIvin adams » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:38 pm

HenryKillinger wrote:I prefer to wear a Bolo tie to hint that I'm a rootin'-tootin' good time and then throw out random vocab words like Charlie on Always Sunny.


arizona advocate opposes offensive characterization as bola tie-wearing cowboys as fun-loving.

we're angry racists. hth

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:40 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
HenryKillinger wrote:I prefer to wear a Bolo tie to hint that I'm a rootin'-tootin' good time and then throw out random vocab words like Charlie on Always Sunny.


arizona advocate opposes offensive characterization as bola tie-wearing cowboys as fun-loving.

we're angry racists. hth

Who said it was a characterization? That's just what I wear. Stop boxing me in to your traditionalist cowboy conventions, man.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby nontradintexas » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 pm

HenryKillinger wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:
HenryKillinger wrote:
amyLAchemist wrote:In addition to being OCI appropriate, men in conservative suits are hot. Yet another reason to follow the advice of GodSpeed.

I am a fan of charcoal suit, plain maroon tie, white shirt. And please make sure your jacket sleeves are shorter than your shirt sleeves. And polish your spiffy black shoes. And wear a friggin belt. Oh, how I love observing OCI.

Who wouldn't wear a belt? Even if you're pants are the right size, isn't it kind of a requirement for suits?


You'd be surprised what people do and don't do. I helped the some of the boys accessorize for OCI last year. The sock situation was equally entertaining.

Any white socks with black shoes?


We had a guy in class rocking the black suit, black shoes, NO socks this past semester. Don't know how that interview turned out, but I could guess...

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Thomas Jefferson » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:09 pm

Shcrute, a blue (navy) tie with the navy suit is the best alternative to red if you want to switch up your tie. Depending upon the shades/hues, it can be too much blue, but it's also less forceful. It's actually better than the red, sometimes, depending upon what you're going for. Note: to emphasize "sometimes," lest I be accused of questioning the red tie, navy suit combo--sacrilege ITT.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:30 pm

How important is it to have a good suit or pair of suits 1L year?

Reading through this thread and others (e.g., "Necessities for Law School"), I've come to the conclusion that my suit is bad news for law firm interviews. I have a Calvin Klein midnight blue suit with light pin-striping that I bought off the rack at Macy's. This seems to violate pretty much every consensus rule in this thread and elsewhere.

However, will it cut it for 1L? I'd love to get a bespoke suit--and there's allegedly a great place in my home town that does them for $900 - $2,000--but I'm thinking it would be more economical to get a solid navy and a solid charcoal at Brooks Brothers on a two-for-one. Can this wait until winter break?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Mr. Fancy » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:37 pm

Bronte wrote:How important is it to have a good suit or pair of suits 1L year?

Reading through this thread and others (e.g., "Necessities for Law School"), I've come to the conclusion that my suit is bad news for law firm interviews. I have a Calvin Klein midnight blue suit with light pin-striping that I bought off the rack at Macy's. This seems to violate pretty much every consensus rule in this thread and elsewhere.

However, will it cut it for 1L? I'd love to get a bespoke suit--and there's allegedly a great place in my home town that does them for $900 - $2,000--but I'm thinking it would be more economical to get a solid navy and a solid charcoal at Brooks Brothers on a two-for-one. Can this wait until winter break?


You won't need a suit until job interviews for 1L summer, which will begin in December at the earliest... As far as your current suit goes, the color is fine (as long as the pinstripes are fine-line, not robber baron like). But, does it fit, only have two buttons, and is it plain front (as opposed to pleated paints)? If the answer to all three is yes, then don't worry about buying a suit until 2L OCI.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:54 pm

schrutebeetfarms wrote:You won't need a suit until job interviews for 1L summer, which will begin in December at the earliest... As far as your current suit goes, the color is fine (as long as the pinstripes are fine-line, not robber baron like). But, does it fit, only have two buttons, and is it plain front (as opposed to pleated paints)? If the answer to all three is yes, then don't worry about buying a suit until 2L OCI.


Thin pinstripes, plain front, and fits reasonably well because I have a fairly generic build. However, it is a three-button.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:56 pm

If you can afford a reasonably good 2 button, do it. If not, the world won't end.

I don't think pleats are that big of a deal for an interview. That's more of a fashion type thing.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:58 pm

What's the rule on a 3 button? I know never bottom no matter what but on 3 button is it middle only or top two?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby thalassocrat » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:04 pm

amyLAchemist wrote:I feel like women are way worse than men at dressing for interviews. A lot of stuff seems way too casual? I honestly cannot believe some of the things I have seen attorneys wear to court (both style (argh ruffles noooo) and ill-fitting nature). I am a west coast transplant, from the east coast, so maybe I am just used to more conservative apparel. *shrug*


It seems like a lot of that might be due to the variety of options women's suits have compared to men's. I've been browsing around looking for reasonable interview suits and it seems like almost everything is godawful either in design or color or both.

Along those lines, does anyone have any tips on where to find good suits for women at good prices? I'd prefer three piece options (jacket/skirt/pants), but anything will help.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:09 pm

GodSpeed wrote:If you can afford a reasonably good 2 button, do it. If not, the world won't end.

I don't think pleats are that big of a deal for an interview. That's more of a fashion type thing.


Yes I plan to buy two better suits before 2L OCI. I'm just hoping to defer the expense a bit so I can purchase some more day to day stuff before I start 1L. Anyway, thanks guys.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby HenryKillinger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:12 pm

schrutebeetfarms wrote:
Bronte wrote:How important is it to have a good suit or pair of suits 1L year?

Reading through this thread and others (e.g., "Necessities for Law School"), I've come to the conclusion that my suit is bad news for law firm interviews. I have a Calvin Klein midnight blue suit with light pin-striping that I bought off the rack at Macy's. This seems to violate pretty much every consensus rule in this thread and elsewhere.

However, will it cut it for 1L? I'd love to get a bespoke suit--and there's allegedly a great place in my home town that does them for $900 - $2,000--but I'm thinking it would be more economical to get a solid navy and a solid charcoal at Brooks Brothers on a two-for-one. Can this wait until winter break?


You won't need a suit until job interviews for 1L summer, which will begin in December at the earliest... As far as your current suit goes, the color is fine (as long as the pinstripes are fine-line, not robber baron like). But, does it fit, only have two buttons, and is it plain front (as opposed to pleated paints)? If the answer to all three is yes, then don't worry about buying a suit until 2L OCI.

Don't spend the money if you don't have it.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby leobowski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:21 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:What's the rule on a 3 button? I know never bottom no matter what but on 3 button is it middle only or top two?


Always button the middle, sometimes button the top (it's better to button the top if you're tall). I'm rather partial to a 3-button with an appropriately placed tie-clip and the top two buttoned, but this can be difficult to pull off. I've also been experimenting with shirt stays lately, which aren't very common outside of the military but are freakin' awesome.




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