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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:48 am
by JCooper36
rriles wrote:if anything, i recommend this book

Dressing the Man, by Alan Flusser
http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mast ... 817&sr=8-1

it's the bible for formal clothing. clear definitions of business, business casual, formal wear in it's entirety. explains different types of fabrics, when to wear them, what colors are traditionally acceptable for different settings/occasions.

also handles shirts, ties etc.
I'm surprised it took 18 pages before someone recommended this book. This has to be one of the best books I have ever read.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:51 am
by JCooper36
HenryKillinger wrote:How do we feel about these?
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Not bad, but the soles are thin. Make sure your foot is that wide, otherwise go to Allen Edmonds or Alden for the right width.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:44 am
by Waterman47
So I went out to look for a suit today, hoping to buy a charcoal/navy suit I could wear to interviews in the fall and other law school functions. Instead I ended up buying a grey suit because it fit unbelievably well off the rack and just looked much better than any other suit I've tried on recently.

Am now wondering whether this was a smart choice given my relatively tight budget and lack of other suits. I have one other suit, but hate the way it fits and would rather not wear it. Have I bought an un-versatile suit, or is grey an OK option for interviews and such? It's sort of a medium grey, not light.

Like this, or maybe a shade darker.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:19 am
by JCooper36
Waterman47 wrote: Am now wondering whether this was a smart choice given my relatively tight budget and lack of other suits. I have one other suit, but hate the way it fits and would rather not wear it. Have I bought an un-versatile suit, or is grey an OK option for interviews and such? It's sort of a medium grey, not light.

Like this, or maybe a shade darker.
Don't sweat it; there's nothing wrong with that suit. You could really set-it off with brown shoes, too; especially if you have brown hair. The only problem you would have is if you had to wear it everyday. In that case, charcoal is less obvious.
Pick-up a copy of Dressing the Man when you get a chance.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:22 am
by texaslawyer
Waterman47 wrote:So I went out to look for a suit today, hoping to buy a charcoal/navy suit I could wear to interviews in the fall and other law school functions. Instead I ended up buying a grey suit because it fit unbelievably well off the rack and just looked much better than any other suit I've tried on recently.

Am now wondering whether this was a smart choice given my relatively tight budget and lack of other suits. I have one other suit, but hate the way it fits and would rather not wear it. Have I bought an un-versatile suit, or is grey an OK option for interviews and such? It's sort of a medium grey, not light.

Like this, or maybe a shade darker.

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WATERMAN47,

This suit will work just fine. Although, I wouldn't wear brown shoes with it.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:59 am
by GodSpeed
Its a bit light, but def not brown shoes with it at an interview.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:13 pm
by leobowski
Meh I think a charcoal suit can look great with brown shoes and a cream-colored shirt. That suit may be a bit light to pull that off though.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:17 pm
by leobowski
GodSpeed wrote:I love white dress shirts. Looks great under every suit and with any tie (of course, match the suit and tie appropriately).

Also, medium to dark colored dress shirts with a suit suck. Light blue is as dark as I go now. Conservative ftw. Navy + white shirt + red tie = my favorite. Leave the bright colors for the kids.

Hmm I don't really wear my red ties to work, especially if I'm going to court. I only wear red or gold "power ties" for moot court competitions. I completely agree with the rest of what you posted though.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:50 pm
by GodSpeed
leobowski wrote:Meh I think a charcoal suit can look great with brown shoes and a cream-colored shirt. That suit may be a bit light to pull that off though.
I do it all the time, but neither the brown shoes nor the cream colored shirt are appropriate for a law interview.

Also: I went to a job interview and the first thing the interviewer said was "wow, you look great."

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:52 pm
by GodSpeed
leobowski wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:I love white dress shirts. Looks great under every suit and with any tie (of course, match the suit and tie appropriately).

Also, medium to dark colored dress shirts with a suit suck. Light blue is as dark as I go now. Conservative ftw. Navy + white shirt + red tie = my favorite. Leave the bright colors for the kids.

Hmm I don't really wear my red ties to work, especially if I'm going to court. I only wear red or gold "power ties" for moot court competitions. I completely agree with the rest of what you posted though.
I love my red ties. Red ties + navy suit ftw.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:58 pm
by grobbelski
Godspeed, solid red tie or patterned? If patterned, what kind of pattern do you recommend?

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:03 pm
by GodSpeed
grobbelski wrote:Godspeed, solid red tie or patterned? If patterned, what kind of pattern do you recommend?
Red with navy stripes are my favorite. My absolute favorite is this good quality bold red with navy and white stripes. I have a solid one and one poka dotted with white dots as well. I'm not a big fan of patterned ties. I have a few, but I prefer solids, stripes and pokadots.

It's fucking hard to find a GOOD red tie though. It needs to be done well or not all.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:17 pm
by leobowski
GodSpeed wrote: I do it all the time, but neither the brown shoes nor the cream colored shirt are appropriate for a law interview.

Also: I went to a job interview and the first thing the interviewer said was "wow, you look great."

Yeah for interviews I wouldn't stray far from a plain navy 2-button, white shirt, dark striped tie, and black shoes/belt. Maybe a light blue shirt or a charcoal suit, but that's pushing it. IMO.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:43 pm
by Stanford4Me
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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:28 pm
by GodSpeed
leobowski wrote:
GodSpeed wrote: I do it all the time, but neither the brown shoes nor the cream colored shirt are appropriate for a law interview.

Also: I went to a job interview and the first thing the interviewer said was "wow, you look great."

Yeah for interviews I wouldn't stray far from a plain navy 2-button, white shirt, dark striped tie, and black shoes/belt. Maybe a light blue shirt or a charcoal suit, but that's pushing it. IMO.
Red tie, white shirt ftmfw.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:49 pm
by grobbelski
GodSpeed wrote:
grobbelski wrote:Godspeed, solid red tie or patterned? If patterned, what kind of pattern do you recommend?
Red with navy stripes are my favorite. My absolute favorite is this good quality bold red with navy and white stripes. I have a solid one and one poka dotted with white dots as well. I'm not a big fan of patterned ties. I have a few, but I prefer solids, stripes and pokadots.

It's fucking hard to find a GOOD red tie though. It needs to be done well or not all.
Thanks, I dont have as much experience in clothing but I've been moving toward diagonal stripes. Although, of the two reds I have one is kind of a bright red with a blue pattern. The other is a dark red patterned bolgheri that probably looks more at home on an aging mafia don, aka my true power tie.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:05 am
by GodSpeed
grobbelski wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
grobbelski wrote:Godspeed, solid red tie or patterned? If patterned, what kind of pattern do you recommend?
Red with navy stripes are my favorite. My absolute favorite is this good quality bold red with navy and white stripes. I have a solid one and one poka dotted with white dots as well. I'm not a big fan of patterned ties. I have a few, but I prefer solids, stripes and pokadots.

It's fucking hard to find a GOOD red tie though. It needs to be done well or not all.
Thanks, I dont have as much experience in clothing but I've been moving toward diagonal stripes. Although, of the two reds I have one is kind of a bright red with a blue pattern. The other is a dark red patterned bolgheri that probably looks more at home on an aging mafia don, aka my true power tie.
slow night at GodSpeed Inc, so here are my red ties. My Here forgot my Hermes tie, but that's a 50 ft walk and a ride on the world's slowest elevator away. That and it's absurdly expensive and totally not worth it, even by my expensive tastes (TOTALLY worth someone else's money though- great gift to get!)
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edit: other tie. Found it online fairly easily

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edit 2: fixed color on tie picture

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:31 am
by lisjjen
If you're looking for an affordable suit, try http://www.marksandspencer.com to get a suit around $200-$300. Just pounce when the dollar is high against the pound. The suits look great, or so thinks England's head coach.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:16 pm
by GodSpeed
lisjjen wrote:If you're looking for an affordable suit, try http://www.marksandspencer.com to get a suit around $200-$300. Just pounce when the dollar is high against the pound. The suits look great, or so thinks England's head coach.

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That suit doesn't look like it fits him very well...

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:45 pm
by sonofapickle:\\
Expensive shirts coupled with good color combination of ties works great for people. The only downside to wearing a suit is the shoes, belt, and color mismatch that create a horrid design. I will always dislike a set of brown shoes with cheap designs tattered on them. A simply elegant black shoe will do you much good but you have to get color combinations that match the suit with the shoe or else you will look bad. Good thing I go to a tailor rather than venturing around cheap stores like Men's warehouse.

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/inde ... age=family

You should always go to a tailor though.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:26 pm
by lisjjen
GodSpeed wrote:
lisjjen wrote:If you're looking for an affordable suit, try http://www.marksandspencer.com to get a suit around $200-$300. Just pounce when the dollar is high against the pound. The suits look great, or so thinks England's head coach.

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That suit doesn't look like it fits him very well...
Are you high? It might not be the best Ocean's 11, Tom Ford fit in the world. But it looks pretty damn good. Especially for $300.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:27 pm
by BunkMoreland
GodSpeed wrote:
grobbelski wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
grobbelski wrote:Godspeed, solid red tie or patterned? If patterned, what kind of pattern do you recommend?
Red with navy stripes are my favorite. My absolute favorite is this good quality bold red with navy and white stripes. I have a solid one and one poka dotted with white dots as well. I'm not a big fan of patterned ties. I have a few, but I prefer solids, stripes and pokadots.

It's fucking hard to find a GOOD red tie though. It needs to be done well or not all.
Thanks, I dont have as much experience in clothing but I've been moving toward diagonal stripes. Although, of the two reds I have one is kind of a bright red with a blue pattern. The other is a dark red patterned bolgheri that probably looks more at home on an aging mafia don, aka my true power tie.
slow night at GodSpeed Inc, so here are my red ties. My Here forgot my Hermes tie, but that's a 50 ft walk and a ride on the world's slowest elevator away. That and it's absurdly expensive and totally not worth it, even by my expensive tastes (TOTALLY worth someone else's money though- great gift to get!)

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edit: other tie. Found it online fairly easily

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I may have missed this Godspeed; if so, I apologize, but I wanted to ask where you got the red polka dot tie in the middle there. I'm a fiend w/r/t polka dot ties and have a hole in my collection that would be great to be filled with a red.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:51 pm
by GodSpeed
lisjjen wrote:
Are you high? It might not be the best Ocean's 11, Tom Ford fit in the world. But it looks pretty damn good. Especially for $300.
Maybe it's just the way he's standing or something...

BunkMoreland wrote: I may have missed this Godspeed; if so, I apologize, but I wanted to ask where you got the red polka dot tie in the middle there. I'm a fiend w/r/t polka dot ties and have a hole in my collection that would be great to be filled with a red.
Macy's, I think.

Also: http://www.thetiebar.com/order_page.asp ... sTiesOnly=
http://www.thetiebar.com/order_page.asp ... sTiesOnly=
I ordered from them about a year ago and was disappointed because their ties were too wide. Allegedly, they're not as wide anymore. I'm gonna order a few ties from them again.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:55 pm
by zettsscores40
Keep me updated again. I shied away from them last time on your advice and I'm looking for new ties.

Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:31 am
by Pufer
lisjjen wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
lisjjen wrote:If you're looking for an affordable suit, try http://www.marksandspencer.com to get a suit around $200-$300. Just pounce when the dollar is high against the pound. The suits look great, or so thinks England's head coach.

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That suit doesn't look like it fits him very well...
Are you high? It might not be the best Ocean's 11, Tom Ford fit in the world. But it looks pretty damn good. Especially for $300.
The suits worn by the English team (and head coach) were custom tailored for each individual on the team by Timothy Everest MBE (a Savile Row tailor), but were branded as M&S stuff thanks to a "Official Clothiers of the English World Cup Team" bit. M&S now is selling a knockoff of the Savile Row suits for a couple hundred bucks.

Even if this wasn't the case, picture Sears in your mind. Add a Super Target grocery section to your imaginary Sears. Have this combination Sears/Super Target pay big piles of money to be named the official clothier of the US Olympic Basketball team. Now picture some English person posting (on TopBritLawSchools.com) a picture of the Dream Team's coach wearing a Ralph Lauren Purple Label suit that Sears/Super Target was selling a cheap knockoff version of. Have this English person suggest that Sears/Super Target would be an awesome place for British law students to pick up a cheap suit based on the picture of the basketball coach, assuming that the pound/dollar exchange rate was looking good. Are you starting to see what's wrong with your suggestion yet?

As a general rule, you shouldn't purchase your suits at the same place you can purchase a refrigerator, the new Eminem CD, and a bag of frozen tater tots, regardless of which side of the Atlantic the store happens to be on.

-Pufer