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Re: OCI/callbacks/etc Men's Clothing Mega-thread

Postby Nova » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:03 pm

romothesavior wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Whens the next one?

Depends what you're shopping for. Change of seasons are good. Mid-summer is also good.

Please excuse my clothing noobness:

Im a 1L and will be looking for a good interview suit for next semester. So I think I can hold out till summer. I already read Pufer + like fifty pages of this thread. Probably gonna get AEs. Im thinking BB for the suit. When is BBs next big sale?

I also need slacks + dress shirts for work this summer. I would prefer good quality + affordable. What brands would be considered a good mix of those qualities?

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Postby LeDique » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:05 pm

Nova wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Whens the next one?

Depends what you're shopping for. Change of seasons are good. Mid-summer is also good.

Please excuse my clothing noobness:

Im a 1L and will be looking for a good interview suit for next semester. So I think I can hold out till summer. I already read Pufer + like fifty pages of this thread. Probably gonna get AEs. Im thinking BB for the suit. When is BBs next big sale?

I also need slacks + dress shirts for work this summer. I would prefer good quality + affordable. What brands would be considered a good mix of those qualities?


Brooks Brothers still had a winter clearance right now.

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Postby Nova » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:12 pm

Good to know, TY

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Postby chrisbru » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:35 pm

Nova wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Whens the next one?

Depends what you're shopping for. Change of seasons are good. Mid-summer is also good.

Please excuse my clothing noobness:

Im a 1L and will be looking for a good interview suit for next semester. So I think I can hold out till summer. I already read Pufer + like fifty pages of this thread. Probably gonna get AEs. Im thinking BB for the suit. When is BBs next big sale?

I also need slacks + dress shirts for work this summer. I would prefer good quality + affordable. What brands would be considered a good mix of those qualities?


I think its semi-annual... So now, and mid-summer as well. The Brooks Brothers slim fit no-iron button-down is my favorite dress shirts, and their pants are pretty good as well—but I only get them if they are on sale. You can get shirts between $25-$50 a piece when they are on sale. I love the no-iron, non-dry-clean-only shirts because I can wash them normally and just hang them up ASAP when the dryer is done and they look great.

For cheap, good pants I usually just go to Younkers/Macy's/whatever when I can find a 20-25% off coupon. Kenneth Cole Reactions are my favorite because I like the way they fit and they look pretty nice for the $30-$40 you can get them for if you get a good coupon.

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Re: OCI/callbacks/etc Men's Clothing Mega-thread

Postby J90 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:02 pm

Hey guys, I was just assigned an interview next week for a pre-law program, and I'd like to prepare.

The problem is I only have one suit, and it's black (although it's tailored/fits great). Is this an absolute no-go, or would I be able to make do with it at the interview?

I'd be trying to counterbalance the black with a white dress shirt and striped blue tie, or a light blue dress shirt, if you think that's better. I don't know if brown shoes is too risky - are black dress shoes the go-to here?

Any help is appreciated, just trying to avoid looking like I'm coming from a funeral, and a new navy/charcoal suit is beyond my budget right now. It'd mean a lot.

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Postby 20130312 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:16 pm

J90 wrote:Hey guys, I was just assigned an interview next week for a pre-law program, and I'd like to prepare.

The problem is I only have one suit, and it's black (although it's tailored/fits great). Is this an absolute no-go, or would I be able to make do with it at the interview?

I'd be trying to counterbalance the black with a white dress shirt and striped blue tie, or a light blue dress shirt, if you think that's better. I don't know if brown shoes is too risky - are black dress shoes the go-to here?

Any help is appreciated, just trying to avoid looking like I'm coming from a funeral, and a new navy/charcoal suit is beyond my budget right now. It'd mean a lot.

If you have to wear the black suit, then definitely avoid brown shoes/brown belt/brown watchband. All of that should be black as well. Wear a white dress shirt, since that's always the gold standard for interviews.

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Postby Nova » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:27 pm

Thanks Chris.

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Postby J90 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:42 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
J90 wrote:Hey guys, I was just assigned an interview next week for a pre-law program, and I'd like to prepare.

The problem is I only have one suit, and it's black (although it's tailored/fits great). Is this an absolute no-go, or would I be able to make do with it at the interview?

I'd be trying to counterbalance the black with a white dress shirt and striped blue tie, or a light blue dress shirt, if you think that's better. I don't know if brown shoes is too risky - are black dress shoes the go-to here?

Any help is appreciated, just trying to avoid looking like I'm coming from a funeral, and a new navy/charcoal suit is beyond my budget right now. It'd mean a lot.

If you have to wear the black suit, then definitely avoid brown shoes/brown belt/brown watchband. All of that should be black as well. Wear a white dress shirt, since that's always the gold standard for interviews.


Got it, thanks, man. If I go white shirt/black suit/black shoes, which makes sense to me and is fine, what can I do to make it look like I'm not coming to a funeral? I'd likely wear a striped blue tie - think that's okay? My other option's a mid-dark red with a gold stripe, but if I should use another I don't mind buying a new tie.

I don't own any cufflinks or anything like that, but is it worthwhile to get a cheap silver pair from a thrift shop/ebay?

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Postby JayTeeDee » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:37 pm

Are sweaters alright to wear in the office, if the office stresses business casual? Sweaters, dress pants, and loafers/ driving shoes?

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Postby chrisbru » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:47 pm

J90 wrote:Got it, thanks, man. If I go white shirt/black suit/black shoes, which makes sense to me and is fine, what can I do to make it look like I'm not coming to a funeral? I'd likely wear a striped blue tie - think that's okay? My other option's a mid-dark red with a gold stripe, but if I should use another I don't mind buying a new tie.

I don't own any cufflinks or anything like that, but is it worthwhile to get a cheap silver pair from a thrift shop/ebay?


Do you have French cuff shirts? In any case, I prefer barrel-cuff (the normal button type) over french cuffs with cufflinks for interviews. It's less flashy, IMO, which is good.

The dark blue stripped tie is a solid choice. The red with gold stripe is a good option too, IMO, but some on here will say red is frowned upon as of late by potential employers.

If you can swing getting a dark charcoal or navy suit, you might as well... I know you said you can't afford it right now, but maybe ask parents or grandparents to help? Its an investment you'll use over and over again in the coming years.

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Postby nys » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:52 pm

http://queencitytrader.com/photos/dec20 ... _6_214.jpg

Acceptable interview wear with a Navy or Charcoal suit?

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Postby 20130312 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:57 pm

nys wrote:http://queencitytrader.com/photos/dec2012/28/6/1228_6_214.jpg

Acceptable interview wear with a Navy or Charcoal suit?

Acceptable? Yes. But a blucher is not preferable to a balmoral for interviews.

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Postby LeDique » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:10 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
nys wrote:http://queencitytrader.com/photos/dec2012/28/6/1228_6_214.jpg

Acceptable interview wear with a Navy or Charcoal suit?

Acceptable? Yes. But a blucher is not preferable to a balmoral for interviews.


While true, that's a balmoral he posted.

ETA: Your instincts are right though - its acceptable for an interview but the brouging as well as the fact that its brown rather than black mean there are certainly better choices for an interview shoe. This is one of the many "if you already own it, okay" but shouldn't buy for an interview shoe.
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Postby nevdash » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:14 pm

For those of you with nothing to do today, Banana Republic is having a 40% off sale in-store only. Their slim fit stretch white dress shirt is probably the most credited for other skinny dudes, and it's only $35-40 during this sale.

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Postby MapsMapsMaps » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:53 pm

So I went to Macy's to pick up a bunch of dress shirts. It seemed like 90% of the stuff I found had "point collars" rather than the wider collars. I tried on 5 or 6 different brands, and I think 4 of them had these type of collars. I need to get slim fit, lest I look like a square (Im short and muscular).

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I got frustrated and said fuck it. I just bought 2 and made sure to ask about the return policy. I wanted to try it on with my suit and see how it looks. I dont really like it, but Im not sure if that's because Im just not used to it or if it genuinely looks retarded. I dont like that the collar doesnt go underneath the collar of my suit.

Thoughts?

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Postby LeDique » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:54 pm

MapsMapsMaps wrote: I dont like that the collar doesnt go underneath the collar of my suit.


This sounds like a huge problem. What do you mean exactly? Point collars otherwise would be okay.

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Postby MapsMapsMaps » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 pm

LeDique wrote:
MapsMapsMaps wrote: I dont like that the collar doesnt go underneath the collar of my suit.


This sounds like a huge problem. What do you mean exactly? Point collars otherwise would be okay.

Look at the pic of the dude in the suit. His "points" arent covered by the collar of the suit coat. They just kinda hang out. And when I have a half-windsor, they are slightly lifted off of the surface of the shirt.

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Postby MapsMapsMaps » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:01 pm

I bought shirts like the one on the right. The other shirts I own (and think are more normal) is on the left.

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Postby LeDique » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:05 pm

I thought you meant something different. No, that's fine in the sense that it's not wrong interview attire. If you don't like it though, don't force yourself to. A medium spread collar is fine too and it sounds like you'd be more comfortable wearing that.

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Postby Pufer » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:24 am

MapsMapsMaps wrote:So I went to Macy's to pick up a bunch of dress shirts. It seemed like 90% of the stuff I found had "point collars" rather than the wider collars. I tried on 5 or 6 different brands, and I think 4 of them had these type of collars. I need to get slim fit, lest I look like a square (Im short and muscular).

<pics>

I got frustrated and said fuck it. I just bought 2 and made sure to ask about the return policy. I wanted to try it on with my suit and see how it looks. I dont really like it, but Im not sure if that's because Im just not used to it or if it genuinely looks retarded. I dont like that the collar doesnt go underneath the collar of my suit.

Thoughts?


Traditionally, you could tell the formality of an event by the width of the collar that was expected at it. For a formal portrait in a suit, you wouldn't would definitely have a collar wide enough that the collar tips would be fully concealed behind your jacket lapels. Notwithstanding the current popularity of the wider forms of the spread collar, this is still generally the rule.

Everything you will ever do as a lawyer (except for taking the odd formal portrait or fancy ass dinner) is not formal. It's business. For business, a narrower spread is most appropriate, but the current style dictates that up to a medium spread is fully acceptable. Basically, the range is standard point to medium spread. If you go narrower, you look like an extra from Goodfellas. If you go wider, you look like you're going to a prom. (If you go button-down, you look like you shouldn't be wearing a tie.)

If you prefer medium spread, return your point collars for a couple medium spreads and nobody will ever look at you twice. However, with the shorter length of today's collars (particularly in slimmer-cut off-the-rack shirts), a lot of medium spread collars won't be hidden by your jacket lapels either.

Also, despite the apparent plethora of brands at Macy's, everything there is made by the same two companies. There's no reason to shop at Macy's for anything, ever, unless you particularly like the store-brand Alfani undershirts or they're having one hell of a sale. All their label stuff is available at TJ Maxx/Marshalls/Ross/Burlington Coat Factory/anywhere for a lot less.

-Pufer

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Postby 20130312 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:33 am

omg a Pufer poast brb

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Postby MapsMapsMaps » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:44 am

Pufer wrote:
MapsMapsMaps wrote:So I went to Macy's to pick up a bunch of dress shirts. It seemed like 90% of the stuff I found had "point collars" rather than the wider collars. I tried on 5 or 6 different brands, and I think 4 of them had these type of collars. I need to get slim fit, lest I look like a square (Im short and muscular).

<pics>

I got frustrated and said fuck it. I just bought 2 and made sure to ask about the return policy. I wanted to try it on with my suit and see how it looks. I dont really like it, but Im not sure if that's because Im just not used to it or if it genuinely looks retarded. I dont like that the collar doesnt go underneath the collar of my suit.

Thoughts?


Traditionally, you could tell the formality of an event by the width of the collar that was expected at it. For a formal portrait in a suit, you wouldn't would definitely have a collar wide enough that the collar tips would be fully concealed behind your jacket lapels. Notwithstanding the current popularity of the wider forms of the spread collar, this is still generally the rule.

Everything you will ever do as a lawyer (except for taking the odd formal portrait or fancy ass dinner) is not formal. It's business. For business, a narrower spread is most appropriate, but the current style dictates that up to a medium spread is fully acceptable. Basically, the range is standard point to medium spread. If you go narrower, you look like an extra from Goodfellas. If you go wider, you look like you're going to a prom. (If you go button-down, you look like you shouldn't be wearing a tie.)

If you prefer medium spread, return your point collars for a couple medium spreads and nobody will ever look at you twice. However, with the shorter length of today's collars (particularly in slimmer-cut off-the-rack shirts), a lot of medium spread collars won't be hidden by your jacket lapels either.

Also, despite the apparent plethora of brands at Macy's, everything there is made by the same two companies. There's no reason to shop at Macy's for anything, ever, unless you particularly like the store-brand Alfani undershirts or they're having one hell of a sale. All their label stuff is available at TJ Maxx/Marshalls/Ross/Burlington Coat Factory/anywhere for a lot less.

-Pufer

Thanks to both posters!! Lots of info! So maybe my collar isnt too bad of a thing.

@pufer - I had a 200 dollar gift card there! Hence Macy's... hahah Plus, they had 30% off most stuff and then 25% off if you spent more than 100 bananas. I bought 2 calvin klein shirts for 70 bucks and then a pair of nice, dress, casual, whatever boots for 60 bucks after the discounts were applied.

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Postby Pufer » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:25 am

MapsMapsMaps wrote:@pufer - I had a 200 dollar gift card there! Hence Macy's... hahah Plus, they had 30% off most stuff and then 25% off if you spent more than 100 bananas. I bought 2 calvin klein shirts for 70 bucks and then a pair of nice, dress, casual, whatever boots for 60 bucks after the discounts were applied.


I suppose I'll accept spending free money as an acceptable reason to shop at Macy's. ;)

If you live in one of the 29 states where Dillard's exists, you can generally get CK premium line shirts at a Dillard's Clearance Center for under $15 if you follow the sales. Plain white typically goes pretty fast in all brands at DCC, but if you like CK fit and want some pastel or gray shirts, they can frequently be found (in both point and medium spread collars).

-Pufer

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Postby bk1 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:21 pm

Those headless, footless, but with hands shots are kind of creepy.

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Postby Itinerant » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:52 am

bk1 wrote:Those headless, footless, but with hands shots are kind of creepy.


Charcoal suit, white shirt, and a navy tie is the exact fit I wore to all my callbacks.




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