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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby sanpiero » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:05 pm

Pleats are classy on anyone

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby sirchristaylor » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:08 pm

betasteve wrote:
sirchristaylor wrote:
thalassocrat wrote:
kalvano wrote:I saved you from continuing to murder the English language.

kalvano wrote:Goddamit.

Elude - what you do when [strike]you're[/strike] your wife is coming after you with a .45.
Allude - to make reference to.


FTFY. :wink:


Look at that cute little kitty. No pleats! :D

Well, unless they look good on you. Lol.


:wink:

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:49 pm

Renzo wrote:
Veyron wrote:
betasteve wrote:2) It does NOT need to be Hugo Boss or better, so long as it is tailored and not so cheap it falls apart.


*Clears throat*

Thats why I said Hugo Boss or better or a custom re-cut.

Blue is also fine but cg is the absolute most conservative.
The "or" there implies that if you buy a really expensive-label suit you don't have to have it tailored. This would be an unfortunate decision.


Oh, its much better to have the suit tailored but, if they buy an off the rack Hugo Boss/BB for $700, the average 0ELL is not going to have the $ to get this done. Nonetheless, you can still get an acceptable suit this way.

FWIW: I would go with the custom re-cut myself.
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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby jawsthegreat » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:50 pm

sanpiero wrote:Pleats are classy on anyone

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:59 pm

^ I would never get a cheaper suit that wasn't re-cut. Can you imagine interviewing at a quality firm in that kind of garb?

TBF though, I know that a qualtiy re-cut suit can be had for 250 in certain parts of L.A. (although this is for a synthetic, tack on extra for 100% wool/cotton).

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Renzo » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:29 am

betasteve wrote:
Veyron wrote:^ I would never get a cheaper suit that wasn't re-cut. Can you imagine interviewing at a quality firm in that kind of garb?

TBF though, I know that a qualtiy re-cut suit can be had for 250 in certain parts of L.A. (although this is for a synthetic, tack on extra for 100% wool/cotton).

Yeah - firms know you are a student. They don't expect you to drop serious coin. You just need to have it fit well. Thinking you need to have a re-cut suit is dramatic and not based on fact.

Is "re-cut" even a meaningful term? Does it mean anything other than "tailored?" Because I pay attention to what I wear, and I have many suits of all different qualities, from quite spendy (but not bespoke) to bargain-bin, and I've never heard it.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:37 am

As it was explained to me, a re-cut is where they take an off the rack suit, take it entirely apart and then modify the components and put it back together to suit your body. How would you define tailoring?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Renzo » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:50 am

betasteve wrote:
Veyron wrote:As it was explained to me, a re-cut is where they take an off the rack suit, take it entirely apart and then modify the components and put it back together to suit your body. How would you define tailoring?

Most people define tailoring as, after purchasing an off the rack suit, taking it to a shop to have it altered for them. This would generally include sleeves and pant legs, but may also include altering the jacket to comport with the lower torso.

For me it would be sleeves and pantlegs always (I have gorilla arms), jacket waist usually, pant legs too tight/baggy on occasion, and jacket shoulders/armholes very rarely.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:55 am

Ok, that about squares with what I thought.

So I guess a re-cut is halfway between tailoring and bespoke.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Renzo » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:59 am

betasteve wrote:
Veyron wrote:Ok, that about squares with what I thought.

So I guess a re-cut is halfway between tailoring and [strike]bespoke[/strike] made-to-measure.

FTFY

Now you're being a bit pedantic (even if correct).

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:59 am

^ This

But while we are on the subject, would you mind explaining to me the distinction between bespoke and MTM? I know there is one and it involves bespoke being even more custom but have no idea about the details.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:26 am

betasteve wrote:
Veyron wrote:^ This

But while we are on the subject, would you mind explaining to me the distinction between bespoke and MTM? I know there is one and it involves bespoke being even more custom but have no idea about the details.

Made to measure - essentially pre-determined styles of suits. You don't have choices such as type of lapel, exact drape of the cloth, etc.. It's like a designer saying, OK... we have this basic pattern/design, but we make it completely to your measurements.
Bespoke - A tailor talks to you and comes up with a suit essentially all your own. You pick lapels, way the cloth falls, whether it is an athletic cut, or not. single or double-breasted. etc...

Analogy:
Made-to-measure = Buying a car and having the seat molded after your, along with having input in some design feature
Bespoke = sitting down with a car engineer and designer, and coming up with your own car.


I approve of this analogy.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Veyron » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:49 am

Yes, it did. I know know which suit to lust after.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby The Dan » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:22 pm

This seems like the right place to ask about this:

I have a suit-buying problem. I'm a 36L, which is a size that you can't really find anywhere. In fact, the smallest size you can normally get off the rack is a 38R, and the smallest long size is a 40L. Right now I have a 38R that's slightly tailored and was good enough to get me through college, but it's wearing down and I feel like I ought to get something that fits and looks better before law school. Anyone have any suggestions about where to look, what to get?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby groundkontrol » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:56 pm

Looking to buy a charcoal colored suit. I want a slim, modern fit. I want to spend between 200-300 dollars. Any recommendations?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby mrm2083 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:11 pm

groundkontrol wrote:Looking to buy a charcoal colored suit. I want a slim, modern fit. I want to spend between 200-300 dollars. Any recommendations?


Zara, suits fit really good and are cheap

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby rjl » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:17 am

The Dan wrote:This seems like the right place to ask about this:

I have a suit-buying problem. I'm a 36L, which is a size that you can't really find anywhere. In fact, the smallest size you can normally get off the rack is a 38R, and the smallest long size is a 40L. Right now I have a 38R that's slightly tailored and was good enough to get me through college, but it's wearing down and I feel like I ought to get something that fits and looks better before law school. Anyone have any suggestions about where to look, what to get?


Hit the gym.

My chest size gained 2" first semester of my 1L year by reps on the bench 3 times a week.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Dr. Review » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:30 am

The Dan wrote:This seems like the right place to ask about this:

I have a suit-buying problem. I'm a 36L, which is a size that you can't really find anywhere. In fact, the smallest size you can normally get off the rack is a 38R, and the smallest long size is a 40L. Right now I have a 38R that's slightly tailored and was good enough to get me through college, but it's wearing down and I feel like I ought to get something that fits and looks better before law school. Anyone have any suggestions about where to look, what to get?


You can sometimes get information on sales at a store where various companies that make suits will have people come in and make them to measure. They usually try to do lower rates as well, which gets you a suit that fits well for less. You might be able to find something like this at a Belk's, not sure about other stores. I know this because I wear a 38XL. Try finding that on a rack, I dare you to.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Renzo » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:48 am

Bedsole wrote: I know this because I wear a 38XL.


WTF? Are you this guy?




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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Dr. Review » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:01 pm

1. That's very obviously not a guy.
2. It's not so much that my arms are long, as it is that I am pretty skinny. A 40L fits in the arms, but I'm too skinny to wear it

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby bigchris1313 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:32 pm

Bedsole wrote:1. That's very obviously not a guy.
2. It's not so much that my arms are long, as it is that I am pretty skinny. A 40L fits in the arms, but I'm too skinny to wear it


While every fiber of my being wants to instruct you to start eating like a man and start smashing big weight in the gym--as explained here--I'm going to hold my tongue and instead direct you here. If you are patient, you'll learn everything you'll ever need.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby kalvano » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:58 pm

BigChris, I heartily approve of your avatar. Their IPA is exceptional.

That is all.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby twert » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:12 pm

kalvano wrote:BigChris, I heartily approve of your avatar. Their IPA is exceptional.

That is all.

their foods pretty good too.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby kalvano » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:19 pm

They make food?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby twert » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:23 pm

kalvano wrote:They make food?

local, small farm grown food. they're good people over at stone.




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