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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby 03121202698008 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:18 am

GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:If for no other reason, I would never wear a shoe that is called "tasseled and kiltied."

And I'm the complete opposite in terms of clothes hording; having too much makes me feel weighed down. Every 6 months or so I go through my closet and give anything I haven't worn in the previous half-year to Goodwill (other than seasonal stuff or situational clothing like a tux). I've never went back to my closet and felt that I was missing something I needed.


I'm with you on that. I own like 25 polos and I only wear about 12, so I think I'm going to drop off a bunch at the Goodwill before I move to STL. I can't remember the exact statistic, but I read some random article or survey (on Yahoo or something) that said people wear a pretty low percentage of their wardrobe each month, like under 50%.

A dozen shits and a dozen ties is plenty (maybe even overkill), and you can pair them all in different combinations to make it look like you have a pretty diverse wardrobe.


i prob have 12 shirts I wear rgularly and 25 tires. I wish I had 3 or 4 more shirts. I have 6 suits I wear regularly, wish I had 2 or 3 more.


25 tires? That's a lot of rubber...

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby nontradintexas » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:29 am

blowhard wrote:
GodSpeed wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:If for no other reason, I would never wear a shoe that is called "tasseled and kiltied."

And I'm the complete opposite in terms of clothes hording; having too much makes me feel weighed down. Every 6 months or so I go through my closet and give anything I haven't worn in the previous half-year to Goodwill (other than seasonal stuff or situational clothing like a tux). I've never went back to my closet and felt that I was missing something I needed.


I'm with you on that. I own like 25 polos and I only wear about 12, so I think I'm going to drop off a bunch at the Goodwill before I move to STL. I can't remember the exact statistic, but I read some random article or survey (on Yahoo or something) that said people wear a pretty low percentage of their wardrobe each month, like under 50%.

A dozen shits and a dozen ties is plenty (maybe even overkill), and you can pair them all in different combinations to make it look like you have a pretty diverse wardrobe.


i prob have 12 shirts I wear rgularly and 25 tires. I wish I had 3 or 4 more shirts. I have 6 suits I wear regularly, wish I had 2 or 3 more.


25 tires? That's a lot of rubber...


Funny - I was questioning the dozen shits...

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby jrs12 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:41 am

I think a lot of people here are imagining different kinds of loafers.

These are the classic lawyers' shoes:
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They're often worn with business suits in the office. I wouldn't wear them for an interview, but I sincerely doubt that anybody would hold it against you. Here's an article about these particular shoes.

Now, the type of loafer that should not be worn with a suit is more like this:
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Gorgeous, but definitely casual.

The safest choice for interviews is a cap-toe balmoral:
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Note the difference between the closed lacing on the balmoral (above) and the open lacing on the blucher (below)
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If you have a high instep, you may find the bluchers to be more comfortable.

The standard, great value, can't-fail choice in cap toe bals is the Park Ave, by Allen Edmonds. Even at full retail, they're a good value, but you can find them for really cheap on ebay. If you're willing to go used, you can get them for almost nothing. There's no need to be afraid of quality used shoes. The interiors are easily sanitized because there's nothing but smooth leather. The soles can be replaced several times.

If you prefer something slightly edgier, the Soho, also by Allen Edmonds, is also a cap-toe bal, but it has a narrower, more continental last, with a slightly chiseled toe (the elegant cousin of the disgusting square-toe).

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:49 pm

And what if you don't have $300+ to drop on a pair of shoes? How about something in the ~$100 range?

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:24 pm

What's a good inexpensive option for a black cap-toe? Are these acceptable: http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=39833

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:28 pm

Bronte wrote:What's a good inexpensive option for a black cap-toe? Are these acceptable: http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=39833


Rubber sole = auto ding. The person in charge of the firm's hospitality suite will check the bottom of all applicants' shoes before they can go into an interview. Like this:

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby nontradintexas » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:29 pm

Bronte wrote:What's a good inexpensive option for a black cap-toe? Are these acceptable: http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=39833


I have these shoes. They look nice and are incredibly comfortable.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby seespotrun » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:30 pm

Bronte wrote:What's a good inexpensive option for a black cap-toe? Are these acceptable: http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=39833

Yes, Bostonians are certainly acceptable. Just make sure that you get the leather soles.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:34 pm

The one's in the picture look like they're leather soled (although I see that it says rubber soles). Would they just have a rubber insert?

Edit: I would buy these in store anyway, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:39 pm

Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:41 pm

Bronte wrote:The one's in the picture look like they're leather soled (although I see that it says rubber soles). Would they just have a rubber insert?

Edit: I would buy these in store anyway, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding.


You might be confusing the sole with the insole, or the midsole. The sole is the bottom of the shoe, the part that meets the ground. The midsole is the part that connects the sole to the top of the shoe. The insole is what your foot rests on. Shoes that cost ~$100 are almost certainly rubber soled, unless you find a great bargain. I've been looking for a good pair of leather soled shoes in my price range and haven't found anything under ~$200 or so.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:42 pm

romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.


Buy a nice pair of rubber-soled shoes. No one will care/notice at interviews/callbacks, and once you get a job you can invest in a pair of leather-soled shoes. It's better to wait and buy a good pair of leather-soled shoes than to stretch your budget to buy some relatively crappy leather-soled shoes.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby romothesavior » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:43 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.


Buy a nice pair of rubber-soled shoes. No one will care/notice at interviews/callbacks, and once you get a job you can invest in a pair of leather-soled shoes. It's better to wait and buy a good pair of leather-soled shoes than to stretch your budget to buy some relatively crappy leather-soled shoes.


But won't Pufer and the fashion police insult me in public for it?

-romo

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bronte » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:45 pm

Waterman47 wrote:
Bronte wrote:The one's in the picture look like they're leather soled (although I see that it says rubber soles). Would they just have a rubber insert?

Edit: I would buy these in store anyway, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding.


You might be confusing the sole with the insole, or the midsole. The sole is the bottom of the shoe, the part that meets the ground. The midsole is the part that connects the sole to the top of the shoe. The insole is what your foot rests on. Shoes that cost ~$100 are almost certainly rubber soled, unless you find a great bargain. I've been looking for a good pair of leather soled shoes in my price range and haven't found anything under ~$200 or so.


Thanks, never knew that. So if only the sole is rubber, how is anyone going to know short of a soccer-style inspection as pictured above? When you cross your legs, etc.?

Edit: I guess you kind of answered that above.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:50 pm

Bronte wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:
Bronte wrote:The one's in the picture look like they're leather soled (although I see that it says rubber soles). Would they just have a rubber insert?

Edit: I would buy these in store anyway, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding.


You might be confusing the sole with the insole, or the midsole. The sole is the bottom of the shoe, the part that meets the ground. The midsole is the part that connects the sole to the top of the shoe. The insole is what your foot rests on. Shoes that cost ~$100 are almost certainly rubber soled, unless you find a great bargain. I've been looking for a good pair of leather soled shoes in my price range and haven't found anything under ~$200 or so.


Thanks, never knew that. So if only the sole is rubber, how is anyone going to know short of a soccer-style inspection as pictured above? When you cross your legs, etc.?

Edit: I guess you kind of answered that above.


Yeah, that's the point. Suggesting that rubber soled shoes might hurt your chances in an interview is absurd because there is almost no way that an interviewer will be able to tell what the sole of your shoe is made of.

Leather soles are desirable because they last much longer and are said to be more comfortable, but they are a luxury item on par with $1000 suits and such.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Waterman47 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:54 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Waterman47 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.


Buy a nice pair of rubber-soled shoes. No one will care/notice at interviews/callbacks, and once you get a job you can invest in a pair of leather-soled shoes. It's better to wait and buy a good pair of leather-soled shoes than to stretch your budget to buy some relatively crappy leather-soled shoes.


But won't Pufer and the fashion police insult me in public for it?

-romo


Yes. Might also come up on character and fitness portion of the bar. But what can you do? Your fault for being poor.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:02 pm

romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.


I've had good success with finding Cole Haan's on sale. They tend to be relatively comfortable and relatively affordable. I know they are not Allen Edmonds, but they're aren't bad for sub $200.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby wiseowl » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:08 pm

I like Bostonians a lot.

To be fair, though, isn't it easy to tell what your sole is made of if you're doing any walking on a tile floor? My shoes are loud as hell, while I've seen others walking essentially silently.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:14 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.


I've had good success with finding Cole Haan's on sale. They tend to be relatively comfortable and relatively affordable. I know they are not Allen Edmonds, but they're aren't bad for sub $200.


Cole Haan's are my favorite. Very comfortable on my feet.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:19 pm

Gilt Groupe is having a Hugo Boss suit sale for anyone interested.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby TCScrutinizer » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:29 pm

romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.



Just go to JC Penney and buy a pair of Rockports. They are by far the most comfortable dress shoes I've worn in any price range.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby GodSpeed » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:43 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:Gilt Groupe is having a Hugo Boss suit sale for anyone interested.

FYI: A lot of their stuff is probably inappropriate for an interview and maybe even the office. I have one and the pants cut extremely narrow.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby BunkMoreland » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:47 pm

TCScrutinizer wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Finding a reasonably-priced leather soled shoe is proving difficult.



Just go to JC Penney and buy a pair of Rockports. They are by far the most comfortable dress shoes I've worn in any price range.



eww.....

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby zettsscores40 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:51 pm

GodSpeed wrote:
zettsscores40 wrote:Gilt Groupe is having a Hugo Boss suit sale for anyone interested.

FYI: A lot of their stuff is probably inappropriate for an interview and maybe even the office. I have one and the pants cut extremely narrow.


Meh I still like them.

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Re: Suits (Clothing, not law)

Postby Bosque » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:23 pm

I picked up a pair of these at the begining of the summer on sale. I love them:

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