Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:hyakku wrote:
Hey, thanks for the more reasoned response. We're referring to the actions taken particularly through last year's thread (several members have com forth this year) by SEO. They contacted the individually compiling how many acceptances there were and which law school they were attending and asked them to stop. Why? Why can't we know which schools give you the best chance with actual hard evidence? What are they hiding?
There were others who were actually accepted which were contacted after they got in and chastised for divulging too much info on TLS. Besides that you have the alums popping in scaring the shit out of everyone. Yea, there is no gun to anyone's head. But when you use subtle fear of rejection from the program by alums, it can have a chilling effect on speech. (saw what I did there?)
Whatever, people disagree on this issue. I understand what a great program it is. And I can understand the pride alums have in the program. But that is no reason to just totally cast aside any form of criticism. No system/program is perfect, and maybe its an area for improvement. Many grievances are coming from legitimate concerns but their opinion is characterized as entitled whining. I don't know, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle and I think in this case that might be the case.
The angry alum from above. Who is casting aside any form of criticism? Am I? I am attacking the way in which its being done. I agree that there are things to be legitimately unhappy about but the way multiple people are doing it is just whiny.
"I expressed a similar opinion and I was all but rhetorically lynched by several people. It amazes me how much "future lawyers" will easily roll over to a culture of gag. Seems they will make great underlings for their corporate overlords."
"But keep up the anonymous SEO trolling, I'm sure it'll get you a spot."
"Well, it seems the groupthink has really took a turn for the worse so I'll stop commenting. Any opinion outside of one's own seems to be considered whining. We'll make great lawyers one day."
"The whole irony is the fact that they interview you on random campuses and once announced rejections on a public forum. Yeah, that's professional. If they're reading this they should realize there is a growing contingent of disillusioned alums out there. I mean it pays but we're not talking SA money here. In fact, one is almost better off finding a position on one's own without the albatross. In time, they'll start instructing candidates on how and when to breathe in a corporate environment."
"Their misplaced infatuation with stamping out all forms of "ghettoness" is amusing. You'd think they were dealing with kindergartners. "
"It's not what you're saying it's how you're saying it!"
Whining about the way others are whining. Great way to take away from the actual issues though. I think there's a name for that.
By the way, for someone so concerned with proper rhetoric, you sure have a loose tongue yourself:
"If you are so repulsed by these "future lawyers" then drop the fuck out of the program."
"Take your shit elsewhere because SEO sure as hell doesn't need a whiny little brat like you."
Not to mention the plenty of responses from your cohorts.
You are completely missing my point. You are whining about a fantastic opportunity not being to your liking in a way that is just childish. You sound entitled. I don't care if you curse. Thats not the issue. The issue is you're whining about the program and saying you are some terrible victim. I am not doing those things. I am saying you are. If you can't see the distinction between me and you and can't even fathom why people are telling you to STFU then I'm done. Go ahead and revel in your ignorance.
Ok enough of these anonymous user internet battles. I hope the thread can go back to being useful for applicants. Good luck everyone.
Besides the fact that you're lumping me with all those other comments you're quoting, you're also ignoring the fact that you've really mischaracterized my comments. Entitled? Yea, cause I totally said I deserved to get in and that my spot should have my name in gold letter plating. (I actually commented extensively how I don't deserve a spot any more than any one else, and that many, if not most candidates have better credentials than I do.) But the facts are lost through prejudicial eyes. Complaining about PROCESS makes me entitled? Ok, but to me it seems that that whole 'entitled' label is being thrown around to anyone on this thread (and no, I'm not the only one that has complained, I don't even know how you could make that assumption, I've read plenty of others' posts criticizing various aspects and it only minimizes their opinions to conveniently lump it all as originating from one lone 'whiner') who has any criticism of SEO. All you have to do is realize that some are complaining about the application process, some about the acceptance process, and some about once you actually get in. So... yea.
Now if you actually followed this debate to its origin you would see that there was never any attempt made to engage it civilly. From the very first criticisms which weren't very rhetorically over the top, the response by some other TLSers was "stop whining! GTFO!! STFU!!!" so excuse us for getting a little heated.