Rocky Estoppel wrote:I'm a 1L currently and I'm getting more and more interested in AF Jag. Looks like I missed the Feb. 1st deadline for the GLP but I can still apply for the OYCP this coming fall. Anything I can do to up my chances? I'd like to intern my 2L summer with the AF too. How hard is it to land one of these internships?
I'm former military (USMC) but I'm attracted to the QOL the AF offers (Having been on AF bases there is a significant difference), plus the more laid back attitude. I know it is very competitive to get into JAG but hopefully I can get some pointers here that can help me along the way. Would talking to my school's AF ROTC help at all in expressing my interest? I'm just starting out in my research here but going back into the military is becoming more and more appealing to me. In fact, if I was to get into JAG, I would want to do the full 20 years.
How much do grades and school rank matter when applying for JAG? Do they care or does your commitment, desire, and purpose to serve your country trump grades/rank? Obviously, they aren't looking for those in the bottom of the class but are they only interested in the top 10%?
Anyway, just looking for tips on preparation so I can get everything in order to apply in the fall for OYCP. Also, is this even the best way to go about this? Would getting an internship and then applying for a direct commission be better (I could show commitment and work ethic, therefore helping my chances for a recommendation over the summer)?
AF doesn't do a 1L internship, do they? I didn't think so but wanted to double check here for those that might know better than me.
Also, I've heard that persistence pays off when applying for JAG. If I apply early for the OYCP (Since I'm a 1L now) and don't get it, would applying every board before next Feb. look good or like I'm dedicated or just annoying?
Welcome to the thread Devil Dog.
Talking to AF ROTC Det: They have no real influence in your selection with OYCP. You need to confirm that the Det Commander will take you on but beyond that, it will not help you considerably.
Grades and Rank: Yes they matter. Unlike law firms, there are no bright-line cut offs. Will selection be a million times earlier with great stats? Absolutely. Can you overcome a lower GPA/class rank? Absolutely. Your prior service will give you a big advantage.
I suggest applying for the OYCP and the internship during your 2L. See how it shakes out and if you have to make the choice, make it then. OCYP generally has higher selection stats than Direct Appointment. That said, the Internship/DAP route is a common one for JAGs. The DAP selection rates are cutthroat right now, so even with prior service and the internship, it still can be an uphill battle. That said, if you are able to land an internship and have a successful summer with a strong SJA rec, you should be in good shape.
I'm pretty sure there is only one OYCP board each year, unlike DAP which meets every other month.
I took the Internship/DAP route to my commission, so I'm far more familiar with that experience. I'll let those more informed comment on the OYCP.