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maxpayne
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Re: Military Law

Postby maxpayne » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:25 pm

Man this is brutal. LOL! I am trying to work on a response to a MSJ but it is rough to complete while refreshing sooo much.

Good Luck to all!

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Re: Military Law

Postby andythefir » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:06 pm

I got the call about 2 hours ago for Army Jag reserve. I mainly applied as a Hail Mary, has this thread addressed some of the nuts and bolts? As in, when does training start and what the heck to do about the bar/other job knowing you've got a 3 month obligation hanging over your head for a non full-time commitment?

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Re: Military Law

Postby erik_1717 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:10 pm

andythefir wrote:I got the call about 2 hours ago for Army Jag reserve. I mainly applied as a Hail Mary, has this thread addressed some of the nuts and bolts? As in, when does training start and what the heck to do about the bar/other job knowing you've got a 3 month obligation hanging over your head for a non full-time commitment?



Hey congrats! I know you've been applying a lot since I've been viewing this thread. I'm especially happy to see your commitment to this paid off.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Ranger85 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:44 pm

Talked to my FSO today about 4 hours ago and he didn't have any info.

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Re: Military Law

Postby sarahbobara » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:50 pm

He didn't have any info at all? Or about you personally? Or regarding when the list will be dropped? Can you clarify?

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Re: Military Law

Postby Ranger85 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:55 pm

His exact words were "Sorry, No release yet" that was it.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Duke31 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:12 pm

The Army A.D. list is posted to facebook.

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Re: Military Law

Postby LAWYERED88 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:20 pm

Didn't get selected for Army AD. I'm happy for all of you who did. Good luck!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Texas Attorney » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:23 pm

Ah, well. Didn't make it. Congrats to those accepted!

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Re: Military Law

Postby travellingboarder » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:24 pm

0/2 Army
Congrats to those who made it!

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Re: Military Law

Postby maxpayne » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Didn't make it this round. Congrats to everyone selected!

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Re: Military Law

Postby maxpayne » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:17 pm

LAWYERED88 wrote:Didn't get selected for Army AD. I'm happy for all of you who did. Good luck!


Texas Attorney wrote:Ah, well. Didn't make it. Congrats to those accepted!
travellingboarder wrote:0/2 Army
Congrats to those who made it!


Did you all also apply for the AF Dec. DAP Board?

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Re: Military Law

Postby Texas Attorney » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:20 pm

maxpayne wrote:
LAWYERED88 wrote:Didn't get selected for Army AD. I'm happy for all of you who did. Good luck!


Texas Attorney wrote:Ah, well. Didn't make it. Congrats to those accepted!
travellingboarder wrote:0/2 Army
Congrats to those who made it!


Did you all also apply for the AF Dec. DAP Board?


Yes. Automatically app'd as I didn't make the AF Oct board.

To those that have app'd more than once for Army, do we have to do another interview and resubmit/upload a whole new application?

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:45 pm

Congrats to all those that made it, including one at my school!

I didn't make it, but I caught several pounds of fish in the Caribbean today, so I'm feeling ok.

Edit: I still have a Navy app, and AF app, and (after the bar) my NG apps to go. So it isn't the end of the world.

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Re: Military Law

Postby sarahbobara » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:08 pm

I didn't make the cut. I guess I'll be applying again next year.

Would anybody who was selected be willing to share their personal statement that they sent in along with their application? Send it in a PM, and redact any personal info...
I am sure that is not the ONLY reason I didn't get in, but I had no clue what they were looking for with the essay and I intend to write an excellent one for next year. I might even begin the process of writing it now.

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Re: Military Law

Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:43 am

FWIW, I counted 31 of last year's interns (and alternates) on the Army AD list this year. I also think there were fewer total interns than normal last summer thanks to the sequester, somewhere around 65? So for those debating on whether to do/apply to the internship, you DEFINITELY want to. Congrats to everyone selected!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Esquire » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:28 am

It's great reading this thread during selections. Especially when talking to my FSO buddies.

Congrats to the Army AD selects!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Ranger85 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:40 pm

Esquire wrote:It's great reading this thread during selections. Especially when talking to my FSO buddies.

Congrats to the Army AD selects!



What did the FSOs have to say about selections?

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Re: Military Law

Postby JDdrummer89 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:05 pm

Hi all, I'm a 2L who's pretty new to this thread but it seems like a fantastic resource for JAG. I'm 0/1 Navy so far but plan to apply again. Congrats to everyone selected for all branches this round!

I have a question about grades: my 1L grades were all fine, but this semester I really bombed my evidence exam and came out with a C-. I managed to get an A in every other class (so I think my overall GPA will actually go up), but I am really worried that the C- will stick out as a black mark on my transcript. I have already contacted my professor and plan to talk with him about the exam and what I can do to improve. Any advice on how much one C- will hurt my JAG chances?

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:08 am

To the poster above me: Navy, just like the others, is whole person. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Explain it briefly in the interview and move on.


To all else: anyone have a guess when we'll hear on AF December board?

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Re: Military Law

Postby Fed_Atty » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:04 pm

JDdrummer89 wrote:Hi all, I'm a 2L who's pretty new to this thread but it seems like a fantastic resource for JAG. I'm 0/1 Navy so far but plan to apply again. Congrats to everyone selected for all branches this round!

I have a question about grades: my 1L grades were all fine, but this semester I really bombed my evidence exam and came out with a C-. I managed to get an A in every other class (so I think my overall GPA will actually go up), but I am really worried that the C- will stick out as a black mark on my transcript. I have already contacted my professor and plan to talk with him about the exam and what I can do to improve. Any advice on how much one C- will hurt my JAG chances?


The selection board will have access to your transcript - evidence is a pretty important subject in our line of work. However, I doubt it will have much, if any, real effect.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Yanky91 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:31 pm

Does anyone know what happens if you had scoliosis but got surgery to correct it. Would you still be able to serve? I know that above 30 degrees you can't, but let's say your back is perfect now. Would you still be considered? I'm going to contact a recruiter, but it's a bit early for that, and I thought I might get some interesting info off this thread. Thanks

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Re: Military Law

Postby runnergirl1 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:27 pm

I was selected for the Army AD alternate list. I reviewed posts from previous years but I was wondering if anyone could shed some further light into the possibility of being selected off this list, based on past years? I know it's specific to each board, but if anyone has info about numbers from the past few years I would appreciate it! Esquire, I saw no one was selected from your board, but there's not much more follow-up info on here from others (unless I missed it). I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic but my hopes are definitely still high. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Military Law

Postby doolie » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:23 am

In response to the post about the AF DAP December board...someone else asked on Facebook about the results and the AF just posted the below message in response. It's pretty vague (didn't even indicate when the board actually met) which typically suggests the results won't be out for a while. FYI--the AF boards typically meet the second week of the month in which they are held. The current TJAG is retiring on Feb 1 and will likely be taking some terminal leave in January. The new TJAG will probably approve the list. These two weeks of the year are also typically very slow as far as productivity because most of the offices go to minimum manning. Based on that, I would guess the results won't be released until after the holidays but it very well could be as late as February because of the TJAG change.

"U.S. Air Force JAG Recruiting Results are released no later than 60 days after the board meets. Thank you for your inquiry."

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Re: Military Law

Postby doolie » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:25 pm

JAG Dog wrote:So, I have been lurking since early September as I went through the process, and I found out today that I was accepted into AF JAG. It seems like trends are always changing, so I wanted to start here and update my progress through the process. I will try to inform as to timing of each successive step.

I also want to say that I did not expect to be selected, and that there is cause to hope for those who don't really fit the profile. I went to a top 30-ish law school, where I was bottom 50%. I was not on a journal. I did not do moot court or mock trial. I got a B in evidence. My family has no military history, and aside from signing up for an informational interview my 2L year, I showed no outward interest in JAG. This was my first board.

I did concentrate on practice-based classes, like criminal defense clinic and trial practice. I have a demonstrated commitment to public service throughout law school and since graduating in May of this year. I read this entire thread. I interviewed at a smaller base because I was told that being #1 of 5 interviewed on a base is far better than being #3 of 20. I was meticulous about the application and spent a lot of time preparing for the interview.

Thanks to all those who have contributed to this thread. There really is a wealth of knowledge here.


I'm curious who told JAG Dog that the interviewing SJA does a rack-n-stack. If that actually happens, it is a new development in the AF JAG application process. Interview packages are usually processed immediately after the interview takes place. A rack-n-stack would be impossible. Getting a strong recommendation from a Colonel or LtCol SJA at a big base is better than a recommendation from an SJA who is a Major or LtCol at a small base. LtCol SJAs at big bases are placed in those assignments because they are well-regarded and likely to make Colonel. Keep in mind that the SJA interview is only one part of the overall record. They are looking for well-rounded individuals who will fit in with the organizational culture. Even the photograph matters because they are looking to see if the candidate is physically fit. If a prospective candidate wants to put forth the best application he/she can, that individual should do some research on military culture and AF JAG culture in particular. In doing that research, he/she may realize being a JAG is his/her calling and be even more committed to the process or that he/she would be better off pursuing something else.




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