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jmls1987
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Re: Military Law

Postby jmls1987 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:06 pm

maxpayne wrote:
andythefir wrote:So is there a concrete answer? If selected to Army JAG, would I be able to defer loans or have the 65K SLRP take care of my student loans each year? Current JAGs...how are you handling loans?


I don't understand your urgency unless your plan is to move back to the private sector after getting out. It makes way more sense to use IBR/PAYE then either stay in the JAG for 10 years or pivot to the (veteran preference) government sector, then have the whole thing forgiven.


Either way - you will only make a base salary of about $45k give or take your first four years. So, your PAYE or IBR payments will be super low. Like $200 to $400 if you have ~$100k debt.[/quote]

My base salary will be higher because I have several years in service. I am torn right now between a midlaw offer (which pays well) , and JAG (if selected of course) I love the Army and would not consider any other JAG program. However, I know if I go JAG, it will be difficult to get back into corporate law. The pay at law firm is great, but with loans taken out --makes it look less appealing. If I am able to defer loans or not have to worry about making loan payments, I'd rather do JAG.

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Re: Military Law

Postby ganja » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:50 pm

Well I just figured out that I'm pretty much screwed when it comes to JAG. I had asthma as a kid and I've seen on multiple sites that having this condition is basically a no go when it comes to the branches of service. Well there's no other way to put it but, this sucks!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Young Marino » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:56 pm

ganja wrote:Well I just figured out that I'm pretty much screwed when it comes to JAG. I had asthma as a kid and I've seen on multiple sites that having this condition is basically a no go when it comes to the branches of service. Well there's no other way to put it but, this sucks!

I actually didn't really think about this but damn it I might be out of a JAG job too. I had an incident when I was like 7 years old and also had a few panic attacks in between. This is bs man.

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:22 pm

If you haven't had a problem in years you make well qualify for a waiver. U wanna do it, try.

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Re: Military Law

Postby jmls1987 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:44 pm

ALeel90 wrote:
ganja wrote:Well I just figured out that I'm pretty much screwed when it comes to JAG. I had asthma as a kid and I've seen on multiple sites that having this condition is basically a no go when it comes to the branches of service. Well there's no other way to put it but, this sucks!

I actually didn't really think about this but damn it I might be out of a JAG job too. I had an incident when I was like 7 years old and also had a few panic attacks in between. This is bs man.

spleenworship wrote:If you haven't had a problem in years you make well qualify for a waiver. U wanna do it, try.


I had a kid at basic training that came in with really bad asthma. He never got booted from Army and was given an inhaler at sick call. He later told everyone that his recruiter told him to lie because he wouldnt get a waiver. 'Murica

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Re: Military Law

Postby brando4545 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:06 am

I've posted on here about this before, but with medical, you truly never know with the Army. I've seen people in the Army that came in with their feet so screwed up that the doctors had to break bones just to get their feet right. I've seen plenty of people in the Army with Asthma - and in some cases it may be a disqualifying condition, but certainly not in every case. It is true that with the drawdown the Army is getting a lot tighter with granting waivers of any type, but again, you never know until you know.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Young Marino » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:06 am

brando4545 wrote:I've posted on here about this before, but with medical, you truly never know with the Army. I've seen people in the Army that came in with their feet so screwed up that the doctors had to break bones just to get their feet right. I've seen plenty of people in the Army with Asthma - and in some cases it may be a disqualifying condition, but certainly not in every case. It is true that with the drawdown the Army is getting a lot tighter with granting waivers of any type, but again, you never know until you know.

Well I'm really trying for Air Force or Navy. I'm going to call ny physician and see what records are on file and then talk to a recruiter.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Backload » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:03 am

Has anyone on here enlisted after their first year of law school then did ROTC for the next two years?

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Re: Military Law

Postby Young Marino » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:03 am

ALeel90 wrote:
brando4545 wrote:I've posted on here about this before, but with medical, you truly never know with the Army. I've seen people in the Army that came in with their feet so screwed up that the doctors had to break bones just to get their feet right. I've seen plenty of people in the Army with Asthma - and in some cases it may be a disqualifying condition, but certainly not in every case. It is true that with the drawdown the Army is getting a lot tighter with granting waivers of any type, but again, you never know until you know.

Well I'm really trying for Air Force or Navy. I'm going to call ny physician and see what records are on file and then talk to a recruiter.

So I spoke with an Air Force recruiter and my physician. My physician said the only thing on my records relating to asthma is "unspecified asthma as a child. No inhaler needed." Spoke to the recruiter and he said I'll likely be disqualified but I'll have to go through testing if the surgeon general approves my waiver. I feel like I'm screwed. Great.

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:24 am

I had a Navy officer tell me that if they want you, they'll get you a waiver. Your call. But you don't have a lot to lose by trying.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Young Marino » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:49 am

spleenworship wrote:I had a Navy officer tell me that if they want you, they'll get you a waiver. Your call. But you don't have a lot to lose by trying.

Yea I'm definitely still going to apply. I just don't know if I'll be pursuing it so aggressively. If you recall, I had a volunteer opportunity at a base legal set up but I'm having second thoughts on that. Why would I waste the money and energy pursuing something that I'll probably get disqualified on? Very disheartening.

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Re: Military Law

Postby NAOBERJU » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:12 pm

The JAG Corps has no control over the medical process. The Navy did not even know what was going on when I was going through the process. My point of contact would contact me every month for an update. The Army was much more proactive. Regardless, even if the Navy wants you, that does not affect the medical waiver process at all.

I put down asthma as well. No incidents since I was seven. Never hospitalized. No inhaler. Played sports my entire life. Navy refused to grant a waiver. Army, once I performed a spiromatry test, did not even require that I get a waiver. I would go through the system. You never know if you will get lucky.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Young Marino » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:32 pm

NAOBERJU wrote:The JAG Corps has no control over the medical process. The Navy did not even know what was going on when I was going through the process. My point of contact would contact me every month for an update. The Army was much more proactive. Regardless, even if the Navy wants you, that does not affect the medical waiver process at all.

I put down asthma as well. No incidents since I was seven. Never hospitalized. No inhaler. Played sports my entire life. Navy refused to grant a waiver. Army, once I performed a spiromatry test, did not even require that I get a waiver. I would go through the system. You never know if you will get lucky.

Lol. I'm really feeling the consistency of all the different branches. I'll still apply to USAF and USN but at this point I'm not expecting it to happen. Probably not gonna do that "unofficial internship" either.

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Re: Military Law

Postby bouakedojo » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:31 am

Esquire wrote:Congrats to the newest member of the JAGs in Germany club. It is awesome. I travel to a different country every month. See who else from your peers gets to do that. And you live pretty well. I'm not a huge spender but at the end of every month, I have about $4000 of absolutely discretionary income.


I'm curious. Do you have time to enjoy it, then? Is the workload for that? For some reason, in my mind I thought that being in Germany would be like being deployed with a really intense workload.

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Re: Military Law

Postby NAOBERJU » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:15 pm

I interned for the Army in Germany. It was busy but I still had plenty of time to travel on the weekends.

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Re: Military Law

Postby jmls1987 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:37 pm

NAOBERJU wrote:I interned for the Army in Germany. It was busy but I still had plenty of time to travel on the weekends.


I'm interested in this if selected. What were living costs like ? What area of law did you work in and what were you tasked with doing ??

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Re: Military Law

Postby yurishima » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:17 am

A new week! This has to be the week of truth, right?! I mean, the 15th is coming up, after all.

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Re: Military Law

Postby maxpayne » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:09 am

yurishima wrote:A new week! This has to be the week of truth, right?! I mean, the 15th is coming up, after all.


Well, you never know I suppose. The way the timing went for the October Board is a little different than previous years. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't find out this week.

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:21 pm

maxpayne wrote:
yurishima wrote:A new week! This has to be the week of truth, right?! I mean, the 15th is coming up, after all.


Well, you never know I suppose. The way the timing went for the October Board is a little different than previous years. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't find out this week.


They have to tell us before the December board meets though right? :lol:

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Re: Military Law

Postby target » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:55 pm

spleenworship wrote:
maxpayne wrote:
yurishima wrote:A new week! This has to be the week of truth, right?! I mean, the 15th is coming up, after all.


Well, you never know I suppose. The way the timing went for the October Board is a little different than previous years. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't find out this week.


They have to tell us before the December board meets though right? :lol:


Maybe they will review all oct board apps with the december board apps and select twice as many applicants. :)

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:36 am

target wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
maxpayne wrote:
yurishima wrote:A new week! This has to be the week of truth, right?! I mean, the 15th is coming up, after all.


Well, you never know I suppose. The way the timing went for the October Board is a little different than previous years. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't find out this week.


They have to tell us before the December board meets though right? :lol:


Maybe they will review all oct board apps with the december board apps and select twice as many applicants. :)



Oh, gawd... that actually makes sense. If I was them, at this point, that's what I'd be saying too. Especially since they were just going to move all of the rejects forward to December anyway.

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Re: Military Law

Postby maxpayne » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:35 am

Let's not lose the faith just yet. Usually, (according to what I have been told and what's ITT) the JAG board meets the first week of the board month and most often, selectees are notified about 3 weeks later. Well, the Jag board didn't meet until the 21/22nd of October. About three weeks after that is TODAY!! So, my guess is that if selectees don't hear anything by Friday, then the lumping together of both boards seems very, very likely.

But what do I know? Lol.

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Re: Military Law

Postby spleenworship » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:39 am

Dude, when you posted in here I thought maybe you'd gotten the call. Lol.

Oh well, it'll happen when it happens.

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Re: Military Law

Postby NAOBERJU » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:06 pm

I worked in military justice with the prosecution. I did standard intern stuff. I worked on pre-trial motions, helped prep for the courts-martial and did anything the trial lawyers needed me to do. It was really busy and the office was undermanned at the time. I had a great time. As for housing, I stayed on base free of charge. I also had commissary privileges.

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Re: Military Law

Postby jmls1987 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:28 pm

NAOBERJU wrote:I worked in military justice with the prosecution. I did standard intern stuff. I worked on pre-trial motions, helped prep for the courts-martial and did anything the trial lawyers needed me to do. It was really busy and the office was undermanned at the time. I had a great time. As for housing, I stayed on base free of charge. I also had commissary privileges.


Sounds like a good time. How did you get to stay free on base ? I thought interns had to pay for their own housing and traveling costs. Did you get any documentation based on your performance as an intern?were you able to get letters of rec from 0-4 or higher for AD ? Thank you for your response by the way.




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