catinthewall wrote: NavyJAG1 wrote:
run1t0ut wrote:Hey all. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge here. I have a few questions about what happens after you go to officer school before JAG school and then your first tour, esp. w/ the sequestration going on. I'm sorry if it's been discussed already. It's a bit tough to find what I'm specifically looking for under the present circumstances. Having gone through about 50 pages of this topic, I now realize how little I know, and the longevity of this topic is impressive!
I received my recommendation from the Oct. 2012 Navy Board in December. I finally got approval and will be taking the oath next Tuesday. My tentative date for ODS is in November.
1. How/when is your date for NJS determined?
2. How/when is your first tour determined?
3. It seems like b/c of the sequestration people are being deferred. Is that deferral date related to JAG school or officer school or the first tour?
4. Should I be looking for a job to fill in the gap? I originally expected the gap to be less than 6 months and so planned to either volunteer or take care of my father who is disabled, but it seems like maybe I should look for something more long term?
5. When is it too late to back out/what would it take to leave? I'm pretty determined to be a JAG, but my parents are not the most supportive of this career choice and I guess oddly enough this information is what they want for reassurance.
What I'm primarily looking for is information regarding the timeline after taking the oath, especially with the sequestration, so any information you can share would be amazing.
Apologies for being particularly clueless. My life has been rather interesting in very unfortunate ways for the past 10 months and I honestly just put my head down to get stuff down. I'm just now dipping my toes into what JAG entails (outside of the basics) for me and my family. I'm also happy to share my stats and my experiences in applying for JAG if anyone wants to know.
I am not in the accessions office and have no official word on what impact, if any, sequestration is having on the Navy JAG corps. I am a bit puzzled because sequestration only affects civilians, not uniformed personnel. I had not heard of any delays due to sequestration, but I may be ignorant.
Have you talked to the accessions officer? The LCDR will have the most up to date information. Regarding your first duty station, in years past the accessions officer has called each individual and asked where he or she would like to be stationed. Provided there is an opening, the AO will do the best to accomodate you. You should know where you are going prior to starting Naval Justice School. As for "dropping out", once you take your oath you are in and it is much more difficult to get out. Prior to the oath, it is easy.
I cannot answer your other questions and do not want to speculate.
Naval officer here.
Everyone submits a dream sheet for where they want to end up. Those with rank/prior service (LEP, lateral transfers) get first dibs. People with a spouse in the service get priority too. With no prior service, you get last dibs on where you'll go. Say with with me: "Needs of the Navy." They always come first.
You'll class up when they have a spot for you. Welcome to another thing you'll become used to in the military: "Hurry up and wait."
I think you can back out anytime before you take your oath. I wouldn't recommend it. You have a job; that's more than a lot of people. Congrats and welcome to the greatest Navy in the world!
Thanks for the reply. Not exactly what I'm looking for so I'll try to clarify.
Basically I've heard from various people (JAGS, officers) that 1) duty stations are first come first serve; 2) your duty station is selected based on your ODS date (i.e. the earlier your ODS date the better); 3) your duty station is selected based on your bar result date release (i.e. the earlier your release date the better); 4) the selection of your duty station can be affected by your performance at NJS, which would mean that your duty station location is determined at the end of your time at NJS, not ODS, 5) duty station selection is such a crapshoot, you should just put your dream choices as your preferences don't really matter.
Since my information is... confusing, any clarification would be much appreciated.
As to the sequestration, I ask because I know someone who is on the waitlist to get called-up to active duty and thought it was implied that this delay was due to the sequestration and the accompanying budget cuts. I was wondering how soon we would be deployed after our completion of NJS or if it was likely that those selected in boards occurring after the sequestration went into effect would be put in some kind of waiting list.
Finally, as to being able to separate after taking the oath, is the only means via the honorable, less than honorable discharge path? I had heard that there was some kind of administrative discharge (like the discharge if you don't pass the bar after 2 chances), but would like to know for curiosity's sake what processes are available after the oath is taken. If anyone can point me to a resource where I can look this up myself, thank you! I don't want to waste anyone's time.