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wannabejag
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Re: Military Law

Postby wannabejag » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:10 pm

CFC_Essien wrote:We're talking about making the cut as far as Selection Boards are concerned. Obviously there are other hurdles afterward -- medical, security clearance, making it through officer training school (or whatever equivalent thereof), etc.

Wannabejag, I'm assuming you're applying for Army. Are you applying to other branches as well?


I may, but Army will be my top choice.

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Patrick Bateman
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Re: Military Law

Postby Patrick Bateman » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:14 pm

This thread is beginning to devolve into the scene from Reservoir Dogs where they are arguing about what color they are named after.

" You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow."

No one on this thread has served on an accessions selection board, myself included. We're all Mr. Pink.

This has been an outstanding resource for JAG applicants for a period of years now. Keep it constructive. Cut out the johnson measuring and sniping over who is more right.

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Re: Military Law

Postby CFC_Essien » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:37 pm

But I'm Mr. Pink!

Just kidding. Guess my zealous advocacy got the best of me. Apologies, comrades.

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Re: Military Law

Postby babyt8_99 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:38 pm

Patrick Bateman wrote:This thread is beginning to devolve into the scene from Reservoir Dogs where they are arguing about what color they are named after.

" You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow."

No one on this thread has served on an accessions selection board, myself included. We're all Mr. Pink.

This has been an outstanding resource for JAG applicants for a period of years now. Keep it constructive. Cut out the johnson measuring and sniping over who is more right.



Hahaha...perfect!

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Re: Military Law

Postby wannabejag » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:45 pm

Patrick Bateman wrote:This thread is beginning to devolve into the scene from Reservoir Dogs where they are arguing about what color they are named after.

" You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow."

No one on this thread has served on an accessions selection board, myself included. We're all Mr. Pink.

This has been an outstanding resource for JAG applicants for a period of years now. Keep it constructive. Cut out the johnson measuring and sniping over who is more right.


You're right. I've been part of JAG for 7 years. That does sound irrelevant.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Patrick Bateman » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:57 pm

wannabejag wrote:
Patrick Bateman wrote:This thread is beginning to devolve into the scene from Reservoir Dogs where they are arguing about what color they are named after.

" You got four guys all fighting over who's gonna be Mr. Black, but they don't know each other, so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. Be thankful you're not Mr. Yellow."

No one on this thread has served on an accessions selection board, myself included. We're all Mr. Pink.

This has been an outstanding resource for JAG applicants for a period of years now. Keep it constructive. Cut out the johnson measuring and sniping over who is more right.


You're right. I've been part of JAG for 7 years. That does sound irrelevant.


I might be reading too far into your reply but it looks like you think I stated that your experience as a 27D is irrelevant in the latest selection debate. Not at all the case, just as my three + years as an AD USAF JAG are also relevant. We are able to make a number of educated inferences based on our experience and may have learned from the first hand experiences of officers involved in the selection process. That said, as I noted in my previous post, we are not the officers sitting on the selection boards; we are able to offer educated guesses and constructive advice. Not a slight against anyone, just the facts.

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Re: Military Law

Postby LSATmakesMeNeurotic » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:13 pm

I have a question: I called a local JAG office to try to set up an externship (I'm a 1L and the Army doesn't have a 1L program this year). Would this be a good idea, or would it be a better idea to try to work with a judge? The job would be "volunteer legal assistant."

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Re: Military Law

Postby babyt8_99 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:27 pm

LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:I have a question: I called a local JAG office to try to set up an externship (I'm a 1L and the Army doesn't have a 1L program this year). Would this be a good idea, or would it be a better idea to try to work with a judge? The job would be "volunteer legal assistant."


I volunteered (for credit) in the fall of my 2L year. It was the the point that I knew JAG was what I truly wanted, heart and soul. I also learned more there than in any of my experiences!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Bounders » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:30 pm

I just got the call from Army JAG. I was selected for Active Duty. Good luck to everyone else who applied!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Groundie » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:40 pm

Congratulations!

Now the rest of us wait to see if we were selected or if no call means that's it.

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Re: Military Law

Postby jess8328 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:45 pm

Bounders wrote:I just got the call from Army JAG. I was selected for Active Duty. Good luck to everyone else who applied!


Congrats!! I guess they are calling this time around.

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Re: Military Law

Postby PVTJohnson1 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:43 pm

Was it JARO that called or your FSO?

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Re: Military Law

Postby scBlueDevil » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:00 am

PVTJohnson1 wrote:Was it JARO that called or your FSO?


Bump. Good question -- a call after 9 p.m. seems odd. Also, if JARO were making calls, I would expect others to have posted. But congrats to Bounders.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Groundie » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:04 am

I'm guessing it was his FSO. From past posts, it seems like some individual FSOs call selectees they interviewed. If it's a JARO-only thing, then we can probably expect to hear directly soon if we were selected.

I don't have great hopes—I'm far from a perfect candidate, academically and in other respects, but I do have the desire to serve and I'll find a way to do that, whether it's as a JAG or not. I wish you all the best of luck, particularly those who have tried many boards.

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Re: Military Law

Postby bjack347 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:43 am

I'm new to this post at least in terms of contribution. I have, however, been reading your posts these past few months as I had also put my name into the AD Army JAG hat in November. I would first like to thank all of you; your posts have been helpful and encouraging. And a special thanks to Esquire as your posts were the most comforting and beneficial.

I would also like to say that much of the conjecture over the past few pages worth of posting has been unnecessary. I am fortunate in that my FSO called me just a few hours ago to inform me that I was tapped as a future JAG. I did not join to boast; rather, I was hoping to share my stats so that they may be encouraging/revealing to those of you who have yet to hear from your FSOs.

I attend a tier III school. I am barely in the top half of my class with a 3.06 gpa. I have not done any extracurricular legal activities. Instead, I worked a fast food job and coached a local high school sports team. I was in Army ROTC for 2 years during my junior and senior years of undergrad. My FSO interview went really well and I had three great recommendations (two from professors, one from a Marine Captain). Thus, I cannot agree that the Army has become like the large legal firms. I think, in the end, what helped me most was how I conveyed to the Board, through my FSO interview and my application, that serving my country was everything to me.

I hope that this may quell some of your fears or at least give you an idea of where you stand. Supposedly, the official announcement will be made on Monday. Good luck to all of you and thanks again. Hopefully I'll be meeting some of you in the not-too-distant future.
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Rocky Estoppel
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Re: Military Law

Postby Rocky Estoppel » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:55 am

What time was your phone call?

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Re: Military Law

Postby scBlueDevil » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:56 am

From JARO's facebook page:

‎**IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING BOARD RESULTS:
First, the Active Duty Accession Board results will be posted on JAGCNET on Monday, January 9, 2012.

Second, in regards to the Summer Intern board results, we apologize for the inconvenience, however, the results are currently delayed pending budget decisions. We will post updates as we receive new information.
Thank you for your patience, Army Strong...
JARO

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Re: Military Law

Postby evilxs » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:04 am

Just saw, and very let down. Just wasted months of hoping and praying. The interview, the time and money spent getting the package together and getting transcripts and letters of recommendation and just dang. I am a little disappointed we don't even get consideration. After all that it is one thing to not get it because you didn't make the cut, but another entirely to not even be considered.

Even worse now I feel the pressure to accept other offers for summer employment that I kept on the back burner. I'd much rather be interning for the Army.

On a positive note, maybe it really will be just a short delay? My gut tells me budget cuts are going to dictate otherwise.

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Re: Military Law

Postby shepdawg » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:20 am

scBlueDevil wrote:From JARO's facebook page:

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Second, in regards to the Summer Intern board results, we apologize for the inconvenience, however, the results are currently delayed pending budget decisions. We will post updates as we receive new information.
Thank you for your patience, Army Strong...
JARO

I just saw that, I'm bummed. Interns should be the first programs cut.

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Re: Military Law

Postby evilxs » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:26 am

or just go to unpaid internships.... I would have done it.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Bounders » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:00 am

My call came around 8pm from my FSO.

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Rocky Estoppel
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Re: Military Law

Postby Rocky Estoppel » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:03 am

So, does everyone think that it is probably a safe bet that if we don't hear anything on Friday, chances are that we weren't selected? I'm guessing FSO's won't be making calls on Sat or Sun, then results will be posted on Monday.

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Re: Military Law

Postby Groundie » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:13 am

If FSOs are making calls, then yes, but there's always the chance only some FSOs are making calls or that one was selected as an alternate.

The next board will be in November 2012. For people graduating this year, any thoughts on ways to improve application before then, assuming taking the bar in July?

Post on JARO:
Attention all FY 2012 Active Duty applicants to the JAG Corps:
The FY 2012 AD Board has submitted recommendations and the approved results will be posted on Monday, January 9 in this website. We appreciate everyone’s patience and understanding as this process has been very competitive and delicate. Army Strong!

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Re: Military Law

Postby Texan09 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:44 am

scBlueDevil wrote:From JARO's facebook page:

‎**IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING BOARD RESULTS:
First, the Active Duty Accession Board results will be posted on JAGCNET on Monday, January 9, 2012.

Second, in regards to the Summer Intern board results, we apologize for the inconvenience, however, the results are currently delayed pending budget decisions. We will post updates as we receive new information.
Thank you for your patience, Army Strong...
JARO


Last years intern results were also delayed. Possibly for the same reason. Keep hope alive.

For those saying you would intern for free: I called the defense council at the local Air Force Base and asked if I could intern for credit this spring. He said yes. Nothing complicated there. Give it a shot.

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Re: Military Law

Postby kaesch » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:06 pm

I got the call this morning around 11. My FSO called me from Afghanistan. I am so excited! As for my stats I am at a T1 school at about the middle of the pack am in Mock Trial and had the Army JAG internship. Good luck to everyone else that you get calls soon.




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