Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

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Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:34 pm

Really like both firms, I’m interested in corporate work (don’t know what area specifically). Is the prestige of these two firms similar? Vault rankings don’t really seem to say that much. Will one have better exit opportunities (for in-house, etc) down the line? Any advice would be appreciated!

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:41 pm

What was the timeline between your PH cb and offer?

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:51 pm

Fried Frank is so much better. Their revenue per lawyer is ahead of Davis Polk's.

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:32 pm

PH doesn't have a great reputation for treating its associates well. (It even puts first & second years in cubicles in "pods of 12.") My vote's in for the hot dog.

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:39 pm

Is Paul Hastings even a good firm? Idk what justifies its high vault ranking.

Fried Frank.

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:38 pm

Fried Frank. It is a better firm with better clients and (most important) nicer people. Only thing that would make me think twice was if you didn't want to be in NY.

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:36 pm

Fried Frank isn’t very high on the vault rankings, is it a well known/respected firm though?

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Fried Frank isn’t very high on the vault rankings, is it a well known/respected firm though?


I am assuming you want NYC. Vault is worthless. Use Chambers and AmLaw. FF is pretty well-respected in the NY market. Paul Hastings is not well-known at all.

Fried Frank NY

Corporate/M&A: The Elite (Band 4)
Employee Benefits & Executive Compensation (Band 3)
Litigation: General Commercial: Highly Regarded (Band 2)
Litigation: White-Collar Crime & Government Investigations (Band 3)
Real Estate: Mainly Corporate & Finance (Band 3)
Real Estate: Mainly Dirt (Band 1)
Tax (Band 3)

Paul Hastings NY

Corporate/M&A: Highly Regarded (Band 3)
Intellectual Property: Patent (Band 2)
Labor & Employment (Band 3)
Latin American Investment (Band 2)
Litigation: General Commercial: Highly Regarded (Band 2)
Real Estate: Mainly Dirt (Band 3)
Tax Recognised Practitioner

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:56 pm

FF for NY corporate. Taking conference calls from a pod for two years sounds horrible.

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Re: Paul Hastings or Fried Frank (NY)?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Fried Frank isn’t very high on the vault rankings, is it a well known/respected firm though?


I am assuming you want NYC. Vault is worthless. Use Chambers and AmLaw. FF is pretty well-respected in the NY market. Paul Hastings is not well-known at all.

Fried Frank NY

Corporate/M&A: The Elite (Band 4)
Employee Benefits & Executive Compensation (Band 3)
Litigation: General Commercial: Highly Regarded (Band 2)
Litigation: White-Collar Crime & Government Investigations (Band 3)
Real Estate: Mainly Corporate & Finance (Band 3)
Real Estate: Mainly Dirt (Band 1)
Tax (Band 3)

Paul Hastings NY

Corporate/M&A: Highly Regarded (Band 3)
Intellectual Property: Patent (Band 2)
Labor & Employment (Band 3)
Latin American Investment (Band 2)
Litigation: General Commercial: Highly Regarded (Band 2)
Real Estate: Mainly Dirt (Band 3)
Tax Recognised Practitioner


I'm assuming "The Elite" is better generally than "Highly Regarded"? So Band 4 for elite is better than band 3 highly regarded?



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