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2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/l ... t-law-100/
Notable Jumps/Drops:
5 Latham (+2)
6 Davis Polk (-1)
7 STB (-1)
14 Cleary (-2)
20 WilmerHale (+3)
27 Cooley (+5)
39 Wilson Sonsini (+4)
40 Milbank (-2, our salary god deserves better)
Notable Jumps/Drops:
5 Latham (+2)
6 Davis Polk (-1)
7 STB (-1)
14 Cleary (-2)
20 WilmerHale (+3)
27 Cooley (+5)
39 Wilson Sonsini (+4)
40 Milbank (-2, our salary god deserves better)
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
consensus seems to be noAnonymous User wrote:Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
the latham jump is notable
everything else basically a wash
everything else basically a wash
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Well, shit, what are these rankings even good for? They trick people into making poor decisions.Anonymous User wrote:consensus seems to be noAnonymous User wrote:Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
FWIW, have had actual Paul Hastings associates tell me that their "Best Firm to Work For" Vault ranking is complete garbage and to disregard when deciding where to workAnonymous User wrote:consensus seems to be noAnonymous User wrote:Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
So what do the bribes look like during survey week?Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, have had actual Paul Hastings associates tell me that their "Best Firm to Work For" Vault ranking is complete garbage and to disregard when deciding where to workAnonymous User wrote:consensus seems to be noAnonymous User wrote:Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
PH associate. It’s whatever. The best to work for is pointless. They beg us to review it well. You could do worse but you could do better. No idea if the vault rank is accurate or not.Anonymous User wrote:Okay, Paul Hastings. I see you. Is PH actually a good place to work (not talking about prestige, I’m talking about the culture, hours, and overall work/life balance)?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Are the Above the Law rankings more accurate?
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Milbank is a V10, this list is idiotic
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PPP and RPL are the best metrics. Law firms exist to make money. Nothing else matters.Anonymous User wrote:Are the Above the Law rankings more accurate?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Some firms are obviously worth than others hours and culture wiseAnonymous User wrote:PPP and RPL are the best metrics. Law firms exist to make money. Nothing else matters.Anonymous User wrote:Are the Above the Law rankings more accurate?
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
You can't vote for your own firm.Anonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
So confused by you. V10 means Vault 10 and we are talking about vault rankings. So either the list is idiotic and you shouldn’t refer to a firm by their vault ranking or it isn’t idiotic and their vault ranking matters.Anonymous User wrote:Milbank is a V10, this list is idiotic
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
right, but I'm pretty sure they don't let you vote for your OWN firm - see post aboveAnonymous User wrote:Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
take a joke buddyAnonymous User wrote:So confused by you. V10 means Vault 10 and we are talking about vault rankings. So either the list is idiotic and you shouldn’t refer to a firm by their vault ranking or it isn’t idiotic and their vault ranking matters.Anonymous User wrote:Milbank is a V10, this list is idiotic
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
You can vote for ONLY your firm on the soft stuff (e.g. how good is the summer program? how good are they to work for?)...you can't vote for your own firm in any of the "prestige" stuff (the main ranking and practice area rankings).Anonymous User wrote:right, but I'm pretty sure they don't let you vote for your OWN firm - see post aboveAnonymous User wrote:Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
It depends on which ranking you’re talking about. If you mean prestige ranking, then that’s based on how associates rank law firms other than their own.Anonymous User wrote:right, but I'm pretty sure they don't let you vote for your OWN firm - see post aboveAnonymous User wrote:Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
I don't know about others, but I rate the firms I've heard of in the 4-7 range based on how little I've had to deal with them in the past year (with less being better). All the firms I've never heard of get a 1. Firms that have made efforts to increase my salary and/or bonus get a 10.Anonymous User wrote:It depends on which ranking you’re talking about. If you mean prestige ranking, then that’s based on how associates rank law firms other than their own.Anonymous User wrote:right, but I'm pretty sure they don't let you vote for your OWN firm - see post aboveAnonymous User wrote:Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
Yes, Latham edging out Davis Polk by 0.022 on a nonsensical list is quite notable. 2Ls take note.Anonymous User wrote:the latham jump is notable
everything else basically a wash
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
My very scientific test is whether I’d go “ohhhh” or “wowww” upon engaging with an associate from a particular firm. LolMillllerTime wrote:I don't know about others, but I rate the firms I've heard of in the 4-7 range based on how little I've had to deal with them in the past year (with less being better). All the firms I've never heard of get a 1. Firms that have made efforts to increase my salary and/or bonus get a 10.Anonymous User wrote:It depends on which ranking you’re talking about. If you mean prestige ranking, then that’s based on how associates rank law firms other than their own.Anonymous User wrote:right, but I'm pretty sure they don't let you vote for your OWN firm - see post aboveAnonymous User wrote:Yes. The best firm to work for ranking is based on associates’ rankings in various areas.Anonymous User wrote:do they even let you rank your own firmAnonymous User wrote:Just curious.
Does JD do better on here because it has a million associates that live in bumfuck nowhere where JD is king compared to mom & pop LLP?
I assume that firms with more associates tend to do better because no one is really going to rank their own firm low.
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Re: 2019 Vault 100 Rankings Released
I’ve heard this but always found it kinda curious. As an associate, you’re not an owner of the firm, so why would your first concern be its revenue or profitability? I can’t imagine a non-lawyer would ever pick his company based on its earnings per share or whatever. Especially not if (for some reason) he knew he’d probably never own its stock.Anonymous User wrote:PPP and RPL are the best metrics. Law firms exist to make money. Nothing else matters.Anonymous User wrote:Are the Above the Law rankings more accurate?
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