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what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:02 pm

there's a full court press from every associate I know to get laterals

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:36 pm

what do you mean? people want to leave kirkland, or people want to try and get hired there as laterals?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:37 pm

what do you mean? people trying to get into kirkland, or leave kirkland?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:58 pm

no the associates there are like posting on LinkedIn and various listservs recruiting folks. Unusually hard press

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:27 am

Associates there spamming recruiting messages about how they're hiring laterals

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:53 am

Well, they just opened the Boston office. When they move to a new city, they tend to hire local attorneys and/or partners.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:01 am

Referral bonus was temporarily raised to $50k.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:18 am

Anonymous User wrote:Referral bonus was temporarily raised to $50k.



Haha makes sense

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:33 pm

LOL. Someone from my law school was posting about how he could pass along anyones resume if they wanted to work at Kirkland. I had a suspicion he was looking to earn a referral fee.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Referral bonus was temporarily raised to $50k.

What's normal at Kirkland and any other firms?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:26 am

Has been hilarious to watch my law school friends who hate their lives at K&E start extolling the virtues of the firm all over social media.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:17 pm

Are these only for transactional / financial openings? Any sense on litigation?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:42 pm

Any of the offices hiring 3Ls with good credentials?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:53 pm

I don't think litigation is hiring laterals right now, but probably in the corporate department on a case-by-case basis. I can't speak to all offices or practice groups, but I know in my office and practice group, everyone is very busy. I'd reach out to someone you know at the firm and get their sense on whether there's need in your practice area. The referral bonus is for practicing attorneys only so people probably won't be reaching out to you, but that isn't the same thing as there not being any need.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:45 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has been hilarious to watch my law school friends who hate their lives at K&E start extolling the virtues of the firm all over social media.


I work in Houston, so not sure which office you are talking about, but all my friends at the Houston office actually consistently talk about how much they enjoy working there. Now, with that being said, they all also claim to bill over 2500 hours a year, so I am unsure how those two things are not mutually exclusive. They have also been pitching hard because of the referral bonus, but it isn't a change from their usual banter. If they are offering $50k referral I wonder how much the signing bonus has run up as well.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:21 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Has been hilarious to watch my law school friends who hate their lives at K&E start extolling the virtues of the firm all over social media.


I work in Houston, so not sure which office you are talking about, but all my friends at the Houston office actually consistently talk about how much they enjoy working there. Now, with that being said, they all also claim to bill over 2500 hours a year, so I am unsure how those two things are not mutually exclusive. They have also been pitching hard because of the referral bonus, but it isn't a change from their usual banter. If they are offering $50k referral I wonder how much the signing bonus has run up as well.


I would be interested in hearing about where the Houston signing bonus is these days for junior/midlevel associates.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby gatorade_potato » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:40 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has been hilarious to watch my law school friends who hate their lives at K&E start extolling the virtues of the firm all over social media.


I work in Houston, so not sure which office you are talking about, but all my friends at the Houston office actually consistently talk about how much they enjoy working there. Now, with that being said, they all also claim to bill over 2500 hours a year, so I am unsure how those two things are not mutually exclusive. They have also been pitching hard because of the referral bonus, but it isn't a change from their usual banter. If they are offering $50k referral I wonder how much the signing bonus has run up as well.


It seems to me that K&E's culture is one where the lawyers there seem to really get off on working their asses off. I have heard that the Houston office in particular attracts more intense/aggressive personalities, but most of the people I know at the firm's other offices have a real "work hard, play hard" mentality as well.

Before the Kirkland apologists come in with their anecdotes, I'm not saying that this is necessarily a negative. The firm has done tremendously well in recent years and its culture definitely played a role in their ascension. I just do not feel like it is the ideal place to work for a lot of people (myself included) who don't thrive in such an intense environment.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby objctnyrhnr » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:51 pm

Anybody know if the Boston office is going to start hiring for litigation any time soon?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:36 pm

I'm a 3rd year corp associate in Houston. How much signing bonus are they offering for 3rd years in Houston?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:23 pm

How hard would it be to make a switch to Kirkland (Boston,Houston) as a 3L from a V30?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:45 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How hard would it be to make a switch to Kirkland (Boston,Houston) as a 3L from a V30?


Not particularly hard, assuming you have appropriate grades and are focused on corporate work. During the funds retreat in Boston last fall, I know a 3L from a Boston-area school was recruited to a non-NY office.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How hard would it be to make a switch to Kirkland (Boston,Houston) as a 3L from a V30?


Also note that I think it's unlikely a current law student would receive any sort of signing bonus (beyond whatever is standard for incoming first-years, which I don't know because I'm a lateral) and current law students are carved out of the referral program referenced above.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:29 pm

Not too worried about bonuses. Just wondering if the high need for people may lead them to hire qualified 3Ls?

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Not too worried about bonuses. Just wondering if the high need for people may lead them to hire qualified 3Ls?


This is likely assuming you have appropriate grades and are focused on corporate work. Reach out to recruiting, or better yet someone you know who already works there.

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Re: what is going on at Kirkland

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:01 am

Anyone have a sense of the signing bonuses on offer to 3rd - 5th year laterals from VE in the O&G and PE/M&A groups. Given that the referral bonus has been raised, i'm curious what, if anything, that means for signing bonuses.



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