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If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:03 pm

It doesn't have to be Cravath or Watchell. I'm talking environment, city, opportunity, hours, etc. The combination of it overall.

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:53 pm

Holland & Hart or O'melveny & Myers, depending on my age/outlook

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:24 pm

K&L and Perkins in Seattle

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Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:07 pm

Skadden is you want to do transactional work

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby nealric » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:03 am

I wouldn't :mrgreen:

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Postby glitched » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:46 am

Wherever I feel I will connect best with the people I interviewed with. Or some firm in San Diego.

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Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle


K&L?

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Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle


K&L?


K&L Gates

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Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle


K&L?


K&L Gates


Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?

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Postby Wild Card » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:12 pm

Wachtell

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Postby throwaway2018 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:31 am

Any market paying firm in Chicago. 180k goes way further there.

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Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:13 am

Hueston hennigan Newport Beach

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Postby gaddockteeg » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:26 pm

williams and connolly. easy choice for me.

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Anonymous User wrote:Hueston hennigan Newport Beach


+1

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Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle


K&L?


K&L Gates


Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?


Yeah, KL Gates is an odd choice. Curious why you picked them.

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Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:13 pm

Wachtell. Doing the most complex work in the corporate practice with some of the smartest people in the country and getting paid handsomely.

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Aergia » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:18 pm

Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.

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Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.


Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.

It was extremely hard to break in though with very few open positions, most of which aren't even posted anywhere since there's so many people trying to network their way here. Had no Texas ties but hustled for a year and was constantly out here meeting with people only to hear "we just hired someone and likely won't have another opening for at least a year." Ended up taking a non-biglaw job and still have more money than I can reasonably spend.

Houston and Dallas are slightly similar from COL standpoint but no where close to Austin in QOL.

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Yugihoe » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:23 am

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Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.


Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.

It was extremely hard to break in though with very few open positions, most of which aren't even posted anywhere since there's so many people trying to network their way here. Had no Texas ties but hustled for a year and was constantly out here meeting with people only to hear "we just hired someone and likely won't have another opening for at least a year." Ended up taking a non-biglaw job and still have more money than I can reasonably spend.

Houston and Dallas are slightly similar from COL standpoint but no where close to Austin in QOL.


Damn that is awesome. I'd take a non big-law job in Austin -- what kind of non-law places even hire former attorneys?

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Postby Nagster5 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:51 am

Wachtell

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Postby BasilHallward » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:56 pm

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Aergia wrote:Market-paying firm in Austin. It's a great city IMO and cost of living isn't much higher than Houston/Dallas if you rent. I imagine if I gave a shit about law I'd want to go to one of the more nationally prestigious shops, but 'tis just a job for me.


Just moved from NYC/DC/SF to Austin and was the best decision I ever made. Downtown is getting a little outrageous with apartment costs given you can live in a luxury apartment in downtown Chicago for less than Austin, but I know plenty of people living 10-20 minutes from downtown that are paying less than $1k/month.

It was extremely hard to break in though with very few open positions, most of which aren't even posted anywhere since there's so many people trying to network their way here. Had no Texas ties but hustled for a year and was constantly out here meeting with people only to hear "we just hired someone and likely won't have another opening for at least a year." Ended up taking a non-biglaw job and still have more money than I can reasonably spend.

Houston and Dallas are slightly similar from COL standpoint but no where close to Austin in QOL.


Damn that is awesome. I'd take a non big-law job in Austin -- what kind of non-law places even hire former attorneys?


As a Dallas native, I agree that the QOL in Austin is insanely high. And yes, you can live 10–15 minutes outside for a little over 1k/month. I actually prefer being a 5 miles north or so. It's paradise. Congrats on the job!

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Holland & Hart or O'melveny & Myers, depending on my age/outlook


as someone that either works or or will work former (H&H), just wondering why you say that? Would it be idiotic to leave a firm like that? Why? Thanks!

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby jhett » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:05 pm

A well regarded firm in Hawai'i, like Carlsmith Ball or Alston Hunt. The pay is much lower than biglaw, but so are the billables and can't complain about the environs.

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Re: If you could go to any firm in the country, where would it be?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:53 pm

Boies. Same idea as ppl who choose Wachtell, but litigation.

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:K&L and Perkins in Seattle


K&L?


K&L Gates


Yea, I got that. Sorry, I meant, "why K&L Gates"? They pay below market, have a weird situation going on with financing and stuff, and are behind the times in personnel management. Why them over F&W, Cooley, WSGR, DLA, DWT, or FP?


Yeah, KL Gates is an odd choice. Curious why you picked them.


Not the person who picked them. I worked there for several years (not seattle) and this is pretty strange (although the Seattle office is super nice and has some great attorneys). They nickel and dime just about everyone. They seem constantly besieged by departures or other issues. They don't have the prestige or brand recognition of a lot of firms, even in seattle. I will say that since I have left they seemed to not only have weathered the storms but continued to "thrive" in that they are going up in Vault, have good financials, etc. But "pick any firm" level? Not sure I get it.



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