Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Now that my "cycle" is over, for future 1L applicants: apply broadly and don't self-select out of opportunities. I got straight rejections from random big law firms hiring 1Ls (think DLA Piper, Dechert) yet several interviews from very selective firms. (And my grades were great so I honestly can't explain what makes the difference.)
definitely +1 to this. i got dinged from a couple less grade-selective firms and offered from some of the most grade-selective firms in the market i was going for. a friend of mine who didn't put in half the effort i did and had significantly worse grades got an offer from a firm i was rejected at. i have been told by many, including people i have interviewed with, that i am a great interviewer so i generally think 1L SAs have a big fat element of luck.
First, I'm sorry to say, but these are 1L positions, so EVERY firm is selective. You would not believe the number of applications they get. They are generally only looking for a few 1Ls at the most. And so it is very easy to say not to someone with a 4.0 when you have someone else with a 3.8 that would be a better fit for the firm. They are not only looking at law school grades, but also everything else on your resume. They are looking at your undergrad GPA, they are looking at your undergrad ECs, your law school ECs, your community involvement, your work experience, and yes, the color of your skin. They will look at your linkedin, your facebook, your twitter, your instagram, your directory photo, and anything else they can find on you, and if they see one thing they don't like, they will say no without hesitation because they have a stack of applications from other qualified applicants.
Also, "less grade-selective" merely means that they look at other factors besides grades. Do not fall into the trap of being arrogant because you have a high GPA. Your classmates will hate you for it, and your interviews will suffer because of it. Especially with these 1L positions, there are so many things they are looking at besides grades, because they have so many more applicants with high grades than they have spots for. Most have a "GPA cutoff" just to be considered, and after that, it's everything else that counts.
You probably are a great interviewer, but don't forget that many of the other applicants are also great interviewers. You're right, there is a huge element of luck, simply because there are so many fewer positions than they have qualified applicants. Keep your head up, you'll be in great position for OCI.