Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

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Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:55 pm

Seems pretty normal in biglaw but certain nonlawyer friends are asking why I wouldn’t tell them now. Assume I would work through bonus payout either way (ie, telling them now or waiting till payout).

I realize this a dumb question but I’m over analyzing the fallout I might experience once I tell my firm
I’m leaving.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:57 pm

Lol no. It's a purely commercial relationship.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:57 pm

Lol no. It's a purely commercial relationship.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby shock259 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:15 pm

If your timetable allows it, I would wait until the bonus hits your bank account before telling them. If they don't pay you, you have pretty much no recourse. Doesn't seem worth the risk.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby bk1 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:48 pm

Are your friends boomers who haven't realized how employment relationships have changed over the last 50 years?

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby ggocat » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:51 pm

Lol no

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby blahblewblah » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:57 pm

You have earned your bonus because of work you have done the past year. Nothing unethical about collecting compensation you are entitled to for the work you did.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby star fox » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:15 pm

It's in the industry norm, don't get why that would be problematic.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:28 pm

Lol your friends shouldn't have to be lawyers to be ok with this.

100%, in any corporate environment you wait as long as possible before telling the company your intentions. Don't risk your bonus or your job being a nice person, if it's within the compulsory notice window wait until after bonuses

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby how11015 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:16 pm

If the bonus was for future work, they'd have a service obligation attached to it. Since it doesn't, it's merely for the job you've done so far. Not unethical at all.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby stephcurry » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:31 pm

If one were to give their notice before the bonus hit, would firms not give the bonus?

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby bk1 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:03 pm

stephcurry wrote:If one were to give their notice before the bonus hit, would firms not give the bonus?

If it's blackbox, then who knows what they would do. If it's lockstep and you hit hours, I doubt it.

But in either case, why risk it?

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby whats an updog » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:44 pm

I audibly laughed when I read this thread title

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby stonge42 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Seems pretty normal in biglaw but certain nonlawyer friends are asking why I wouldn’t tell them now. Assume I would work through bonus payout either way (ie, telling them now or waiting till payout).

I realize this a dumb question but I’m over analyzing the fallout I might experience once I tell my firm
I’m leaving.


You're right, this is a dumb question and you have dumb friends. Big law is not your friend.

User outed for anon abuse.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby 1styearlateral » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Seems pretty normal in biglaw but certain nonlawyer friends are asking why I wouldn’t tell them now. Assume I would work through bonus payout either way (ie, telling them now or waiting till payout).

I realize this a dumb question but I’m over analyzing the fallout I might experience once I tell my firm
I’m leaving.


You're right, this is a dumb question and you have dumb friends. Big law is not your friend.

Not as dumb as posting this nonsense as anon.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby lolwat » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:36 pm

It would be crazy in biglaw to give notice before getting the bonus and risk not getting it.

I am more torn when it comes to small firms where things can be a lot more personal. If I liked the people at a smaller firm, I would probably risk giving up the money and also give notice earlier than the standard 2 weeks.

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Re: Is it unethical to wait on getting bonus before giving notice?

Postby SFSpartan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:47 pm

If you give notice before your bonus is paid, there's a chance you won't get it. There is also nothing unethical about waiting to get your bonus before giving notice. Just wait until the bonus hits your bank account.



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