If you had no choice but shitlaw, what would you do? Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:13 am

Imagine you are the unfortunate schmuck that either was duped by law school scam and went to a T3 close to family or you were at a T1 and just blew out at OCI.

If someone told you that you had to make a 300k a year salary within 10 years or you would die, what would you do? What are your best odds? Looking back on your life do you think you could make it?

Beg for work at a PI firm? Kill yourself? Hang a shingle?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:Imagine you are the unfortunate schmuck that either was duped by law school scam and went to a T3 close to family

Go to business school.

Anonymous User wrote: or you were at a T1 and just blew out at OCI.

Go mid-law, bust ass, lateral up. Also you can make 300k 10 years in at mid-law in a major market.

Anonymous User wrote: If someone told you that you had to make a 300k a year salary within 10 years or you would die,

What hunger games-hellscape do you live in anyway?

jchiles · Post by **jchiles** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:27 am

Today I encourage you to be thankful that we live in a world where you are not threatened with death for making less than 300k

PorscheFanatic · Post by **PorscheFanatic** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:38 pm

I've actually thought about this before...

Consider trying to get into banking (you'll have to start at the bottom as an analyst), but you can definitely pull over $300k 10 years into banking. Do you have a business/finance/accounting degree? Either way, you'll need some training/study time to refresh on those topics before most interviews.

dabigchina · Post by **dabigchina** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:46 pm

PorscheFanatic wrote:I've actually thought about this before...

Consider trying to get into banking (you'll have to start at the bottom as an analyst), but you can definitely pull over $300k 10 years into banking. Do you have a business/finance/accounting degree? Either way, you'll need some training/study time to refresh on those topics before most interviews.

IBD analyst positions are reserved for kids fresh out of feeder undergrads. They aren't going to consider some dude with a TTT law degree.

Ridiculous hypo aside, I would do a stint as an ADA in some flyover state and then hang my own shingle. Chances are still pretty good you die after 10 years though.

pancakes3 · Post by **pancakes3** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:55 pm

Chances are you'd die without hitting 300k even in biglaw.

dabigchina · Post by **dabigchina** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:05 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Chances are you'd die without hitting 300k even in biglaw.

IDK, if my choices were stick it out in biglaw for 5 years or literal death, I'd probably choose biglaw.

Probably.

estefanchanning · Post by **estefanchanning** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:07 pm

jchiles wrote:Today I encourage you to be thankful that we live in a world where you are not threatened with death for making less than 300k

*Country

Hikikomorist · Post by **Hikikomorist** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:29 pm

estefanchanning wrote:
jchiles wrote:Today I encourage you to be thankful that we live in a world where you are not threatened with death for making less than 300k
*Country

Actually, the U.S. probably comes closer to the hypo than almost any other country.

Generic1L · Post by **Generic1L** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:27 pm

Can we make this an annual thing? The Depressing Thanksgiving Hypo from TLS.

Only requirements are some generalizations about the legal market and literal death.

PorscheFanatic · Post by **PorscheFanatic** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:04 pm

Not sure why everyone is so hungup on this unrealistic hypo...

Obviously, OP wants to make money (I'm on that team too #TMT). OP is simply trying to figure out if he still has a shot at pulling $300k 10 years from now. OP doesn't actually think he'll die, and probably won't hate his/her life if he/she doesn't hit that $300k threshold, but just wants to know if there are options out there by which to attain said threshold.

I think it will be tough, but anyone has a shot if money is the goal and OP is willing to put in super long hours and become really good at whatever he/she decides to do (though I think the odds/prospects are better working for a company, even in a non-legal role, than they are trying to work in shitlaw). Obviously, if there's a backdoor way into biglaw for OP, that's the safest way, you just have to be ready to work long hours and stick it out in biglaw once you get there (which is certainly a feat in and of itself).

MaxMcMann · Post by **MaxMcMann** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:56 pm

Become an ADA, go to a firm, hang your own shingle.

I know of small firm insurance defense partners who bill significantly less than a biglaw first year associate who make slightly over 300k.

pancakes3 · Post by **pancakes3** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:30 am

PorscheFanatic wrote:Not sure why everyone is so hungup on this unrealistic hypo...

because it's a stupid as fuck question with no answer.

Milksteak · Post by **Milksteak** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:37 am

Is this more like a beauty and the beast situation where I am cursed or more like a Rounders situation where I owe a gambling debt and someone is coming for me?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:14 pm

pancakes3 wrote:
PorscheFanatic wrote:Not sure why everyone is so hungup on this unrealistic hypo...
because it's a stupid as fuck question with no answer.

Hypo in real life, yes stupid as fuck. But it's so obvious what OP is trying to get at/ask in this thread.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:17 pm

This thread is full of lulz.

anon sequitur · Post by **anon sequitur** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:36 am

Become a city attorney somewhere that is growing, look for opportunities to become corrupt. I think making $300K after 10 years wouldn’t be too difficult.

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