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Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:17 pm

This is an extremely sad and depressing post to write, but here goes. I am a 2016 graduate from HYS (top 10%), and current federal clerk for a feeder judge. Unfortunately, as of last month, I did not get a good determination of moral character, and so will not be able to practice law. I won't bore you with the details, but nothing you'd find on a background check).

So, TLS, what sort of decent jobs might be out there for a JD w/o bar passage? I've heard compliance at the big 4, but otherwise, I don't know where to start. Any and all help would be appreciative. Please don't quote.

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby runinthefront » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This is an extremely sad and depressing post to write, but here goes. I am a 2016 graduate from HYS (top 10%), and current federal clerk for a feeder judge. Unfortunately, as of last month, I did not get a good determination of moral character, and so will not be able to practice law. I won't bore you with the details, but nothing you'd find on a background check).

So, TLS, what sort of decent jobs might be out there for a JD w/o bar passage? I've heard compliance at the big 4, but otherwise, I don't know where to start. Any and all help would be appreciative. Please don't quote.

You are a top 10% HYS graduate clerking for a feeder judge. If I were you, I suggest applying to academic fellowships to bide time until you can get a re-evaluation by your state's bar/put some time between you and whatever caused the negative evaluation/think about maybe applying to other states' bars.

You may also be qualified to teach legal research and writing at many lower-ranked law schools. If you're willing to not make much $, I'd look into that, too. I wouldn't give up on getting barred. This could end up being a short-term (relative to the average lifespan) setback. Try looking into teaching fellowship and teaching roles (especially legal writing & research, which should be the easiest to nab and almost certainly your only option for teaching) at law schools around the country.

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:25 pm

OP here. That is great advice, but my wife cannot leave the state, and I got the distinct impression they didn't care if I applied again in 2 years or 20. So, while I won't give up, I think it's time to think about something else.

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:56 pm

Have you spoken to a good C&F atty?

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have you spoken to a good C&F atty?


Yes, I had one during this process. His advice is to try again in two years.

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:05 pm

If murderers pass C&F, how is it that you failed? Can you provide us more details as a cautionary tale for others?

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If murderers pass C&F, how is it that you failed? Can you provide us more details as a cautionary tale for others?


Candor (I disagree, of course).

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby sparty99 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:26 am

You can work in Claims at one of the insurance companies (AIG, State Farm, Travellers, Markel). They seek people with JD degrees.

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby tyroneslothrop1 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:27 am

Given your stats, I'd suggest consulting. Did you parse the wording of a C&F question a little too closely?

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby PeanutsNJam » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:18 am

Can you just keep clerking for the next 2 years and then try for the bar? What are your SCOTUS chances?

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Re: Jobs that do not require Bar Passage

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:57 am

PeanutsNJam wrote:Can you just keep clerking for the next 2 years and then try for the bar? What are your SCOTUS chances?


As an update, I'm going to do this route (sans SCOTUS, which isn't happening with my denial). Thanks to everyone that gave advice.




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