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can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:02 am

Hi-
was looking for an associate (2016 graduate) on the firm's website but can't seem to find their info.
How long does it normally take for Latham & Watkins and White & Case to update associates information?

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby rpupkin » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:46 am

Anonymous User wrote:Hi-
was looking for an associate (2016 graduate) on the firm's website but can't seem to find their info.
How long does it normally take for Latham & Watkins and White & Case to update associates information?

This is a weird question. So you're looking for an associate whom you expect to find on both the Latham & Watkins and White & Case web sites? What are you asking exactly?

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:16 am

OP here,

sorry for the confusion. I met some great people at a networking event and wanted to reach out but couldn't find their info. One works at Lathem & Watkins and the other works at White & Case. I thought it was weird.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby rpupkin » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP here,

sorry for the confusion. I met some great people at a networking event and wanted to reach out but couldn't find their info. One works at Lathem & Watkins and the other works at White & Case. I thought it was weird.

If they're both from the class of 2016 and if they both started in Fall of 2016, then, yes, both should be listed on their firms' web sites by now.

It would be a different story if they were class of 2017. Most law firms won't post an associate's bio until that associate is admitted to practice law. That can take awhile, especially in California and New York.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:37 am

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP here,

sorry for the confusion. I met some great people at a networking event and wanted to reach out but couldn't find their info. One works at Lathem & Watkins and the other works at White & Case. I thought it was weird.

If they're both from the class of 2016 and if they both started in Fall of 2016, then, yes, both should be listed on their firms' web sites by now.

It would be a different story if they were class of 2017. Most law firms won't post an associate's bio until that associate is admitted to practice law. That can take awhile, especially in California and New York.


Js wanna add that, if they are class of 2017, depending on firms, you can see their bios if you search them under "law clerks."

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby cfcm » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:38 am

I'm class of 2016 and I know a bunch of people from my class at my firm who aren't the website yet because they haven't yet been admitted.

Everything's in order, just a matter of making the swearing in dates work.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby 1styearlateral » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:47 am

Or they're staff attorneys, which sometimes aren't listed on the website depending on firm (idk about LW or WC).

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Postby kellyfrost » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:23 am

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby longtimelurker123 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:39 am

I've always found this weird too. I know a '15 grad and a '14 grad who aren't listed on their websites -- and yet I've seen the firm put out articles recently where the missing associates are listed.

I've alwyas assumed this came down to bar issues.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby rpupkin » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:29 pm

1styearlateral wrote:Or they're staff attorneys, which sometimes aren't listed on the website depending on firm (idk about LW or WC).

It would be unusual for staff attorneys to attend a networking event for law students.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby First Offense » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:34 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP here,

sorry for the confusion. I met some great people at a networking event and wanted to reach out but couldn't find their info. One works at Lathem & Watkins and the other works at White & Case. I thought it was weird.

If they're both from the class of 2016 and if they both started in Fall of 2016, then, yes, both should be listed on their firms' web sites by now.

It would be a different story if they were class of 2017. Most law firms won't post an associate's bio until that associate is admitted to practice law. That can take awhile, especially in California and New York.

Also DC if they're waiving in - some firms put you on the website when your application is filed, but others may keep you off until you're sworn in (and I know numerous '16 grads who aren't sworn in yet).

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby TEIAM » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:39 pm

If they clerked their first year out of school, they probably would not be listed.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby surrealfx » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:13 pm

Some people may not be on the website because they haven't provided their biographical information to the team at their firm that maintains the website. They may nonetheless be admitted to practice. If you have their business cards, look them up on the state bar's website, which will have their firm information, phone number, etc.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby 1styearlateral » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:21 pm

rpupkin wrote:
1styearlateral wrote:Or they're staff attorneys, which sometimes aren't listed on the website depending on firm (idk about LW or WC).

It would be unusual for staff attorneys to attend a networking event for law students.

Yeah I suppose so. I've never been to a NYC OCI networking event before so I have no clue who would be involved.

FWIW an old colleague left about 8 months ago to join a "higher ranked" law firm as a staff attorney and just recently showed up on their website as "attorney" and not "associate."

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby OfThriceandTen » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:34 pm

Latham makes it so that associates don't show up in google searches for the firm website before they are done with the 2 year rotation and are put into practice groups. But if you go to lw.com and search it will show up.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby JusticeJackson » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:47 pm

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:11 pm

OfThriceandTen wrote:Latham makes it so that associates don't show up in google searches for the firm website before they are done with the 2 year rotation and are put into practice groups. But if you go to lw.com and search it will show up.


Latham associate (c/o 2016) here - this isn't true. The suggestion to check lw.com is a good one nonetheless.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby rpupkin » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
OfThriceandTen wrote:Latham makes it so that associates don't show up in google searches for the firm website before they are done with the 2 year rotation and are put into practice groups. But if you go to lw.com and search it will show up.


Latham associate (c/o 2016) here - this isn't true. The suggestion to check lw.com is a good one nonetheless.

Yeah, some of the takes in this thread strike me as off. It's not January 2017. At this point, anyone who passed the bar in Fall 2016 (and who didn't have C&F issues) should be admitted to practice and on a firm's web site. (If the associate recently changed offices or is otherwise trying to get admitted to the bar in a state where they didn't pass the bar after law school, that would certainly delay things--but that situation isn't common for first-year associates.)

ETA: Also, lol@JusticeJackson's post. Well done.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby mecarey » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:44 am

Anonymous User wrote:Hi-
was looking for an associate (2016 graduate) on the firm's website but can't seem to find their info.
How long does it normally take for Latham & Watkins and White & Case to update associates information?


Have you tried searching on LinkedIn?

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:38 am

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
OfThriceandTen wrote:Latham makes it so that associates don't show up in google searches for the firm website before they are done with the 2 year rotation and are put into practice groups. But if you go to lw.com and search it will show up.


Latham associate (c/o 2016) here - this isn't true. The suggestion to check lw.com is a good one nonetheless.

Yeah, some of the takes in this thread strike me as off. It's not January 2017. At this point, anyone who passed the bar in Fall 2016 (and who didn't have C&F issues) should be admitted to practice and on a firm's web site. (If the associate recently changed offices or is otherwise trying to get admitted to the bar in a state where they didn't pass the bar after law school, that would certainly delay things--but that situation isn't common for first-year associates.)

ETA: Also, lol@JusticeJackson's post. Well done.


I know of quite a few people in large firms who haven't been admitted yet just cause they didn't get around to sending in their applications until late.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby JenDarby » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:57 am

Anonymous User wrote:
rpupkin wrote:Yeah, some of the takes in this thread strike me as off. It's not January 2017. At this point, anyone who passed the bar in Fall 2016 (and who didn't have C&F issues) should be admitted to practice and on a firm's web site. (If the associate recently changed offices or is otherwise trying to get admitted to the bar in a state where they didn't pass the bar after law school, that would certainly delay things--but that situation isn't common for first-year associates.)

ETA: Also, lol@JusticeJackson's post. Well done.


I know of quite a few people in large firms who haven't been admitted yet just cause they didn't get around to sending in their applications until late.

yea I know a large handful (mainly transactional, but a couple lit) biglaw associates that took 1-2 years after passing the NY bar to even bother starting with the paperwork/process of being admitted
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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby BigZuck » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:23 pm

I've worked across from midlevels at another firm who weren't listed on the website. I just assumed it was a The Sixth Sense situation.

Anyway OP this is troubling and I'm glad you've crowd sourced TLS to get to the bottom of this.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby rpupkin » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:29 pm

BigZuck wrote:I've worked across from midlevels at another firm who weren't listed on the website. I just assumed it was a The Sixth Sense situation.

Seems right. There isn't much difference between an overworked midlevel and a dead person anyway.

"I see midlevels."

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:12 am

Can confirm, White & Case is incredibly slow to put new bios on its website. In many cases, first-years won't have public bios until they approach their second year. Incoming clerks who start as second-years generally get bios pretty quickly. I'm not sure why any of this is the case, but that seems to be how it goes.

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Re: can't find an associate on the website

Postby Right2BearArms » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:16 am

Some firms are just slow, and most will not put an attorney who is awaiting bar approval on the website until after they are admitted. There are any number of reasons that might get held up.

Also, with junior associates, especially first years, there is no real rush to get them on the site. No client or prospective client is browsing the website of a firm like W&C or LW and deciding to sign a representation letter based on junior attorney profiles.



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