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OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:00 am

So I founded a startup and incorporated it. We tried to develop a team and did some research but never got to do anything substantial.

I was working as a founder and corporate counsel (incorporation, employment law, etc) but I haven't been licensed yet. I looked up some laws online to figure out what the company should do. We had a few other people (engineers) but they all left eventually.

In this case, is it OK to state "Corporate Counsel" on my resume? If not, what title would be a better option?

Please focus on my question, rather than, say, why do you want to state a failed startup experience - type of question.
Thank you.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby Vincent Adultman » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:08 am

lol I wouldn't represent that you did legal work prior to being licensed.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby blueapple » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:00 am

Martin Brody wrote:lol I wouldn't represent that you did legal work prior to being licensed.
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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby North » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:25 am

Anonymous User wrote:Please focus on my question, rather than, say, why do you want to state a failed startup experience - type of question.
Thank you.

I love when people asking for free advice on the internet have demands like this.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby malibustacy » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:36 am

Why do you want to state a failed startup experience?

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby jchiles » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:47 am

Were you ever listed as corporate counsel on a website, document, or business card, or was it just a title you and your friends at the startup used.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby mjb447 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:51 am

Martin Brody wrote:lol I wouldn't represent that you did legal work prior to being licensed.


and

malibustacy wrote:Why do you want to state a failed startup experience?


Together at last!

I guess you could say founder, president, CEO, or something like that, but it doesn't seem to me that putting this on your resume makes a lot of sense.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby Nebby » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:53 am

No. It's not okay

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby pancakes3 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:20 am

is OP a law student or someone who's failed the bar (or just never took it)?

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby misterjames » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:23 am

from what you've written here it sounds like you've been practicing law without a license. any response to that?

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby SFSpartan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:33 am

Calling yourself corproate counsel when you don't have a license to practice law is a bad idea. Put Co-Founder, or whatever officer title you held

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby Magic Hat » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:53 pm

Unauthorized Practice of Law is actually a low felony in some states. I would certainly not indicate on any writing that you acted as "counsel" in any way, shape or form.

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby MKC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:19 pm

Should probably just list "Practiced Law without a License" in the experience description for your startup.
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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby pancakes3 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:32 pm

the "don't associate yourself with a failed company" aspect takes a 3rd row back seat to "practicing without a license" and "did no substantive legal work" aspect

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby MKC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:47 pm

Also, "Soon to be disqualified from sitting for the bar due to C&F violations" would be fine to list as a bullet point.
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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby cron1834 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So I founded a startup and incorporated it. We tried to develop a team and did some research but never got to do anything substantial.

I was working as a founder and corporate counsel (incorporation, employment law, etc) but I haven't been licensed yet. I looked up some laws online to figure out what the company should do. We had a few other people (engineers) but they all left eventually.

In this case, is it OK to state "Corporate Counsel" on my resume? If not, what title would be a better option?

Please focus on my question, rather than, say, why do you want to state a failed startup experience - type of question.
Thank you.

Are you serious?

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby Nebby » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:49 pm

cron1834 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So I founded a startup and incorporated it. We tried to develop a team and did some research but never got to do anything substantial.

I was working as a founder and corporate counsel (incorporation, employment law, etc) but I haven't been licensed yet. I looked up some laws online to figure out what the company should do. We had a few other people (engineers) but they all left eventually.

In this case, is it OK to state "Corporate Counsel" on my resume? If not, what title would be a better option?

Please focus on my question, rather than, say, why do you want to state a failed startup experience - type of question.
Thank you.

Are you serious?

Serious as unauthorized practice is law!

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby North » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:20 pm

OP a lot of us ITT are barred lawyers and I think we now have an ethical duty to report you to your state bar. Can you PM us your contact info when you have a minute

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby MKC » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:40 pm

North wrote:OP a lot of us ITT are barred lawyers and I think we now have an ethical duty to report you to your state bar. Can you PM us your contact info when you have a minute


Good catch:

Rule 8.3 Reporting Professional Misconduct

(a) A lawyer who knows that another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer's honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects, shall inform the appropriate professional authority.
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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby njdevils2626 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:50 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
North wrote:OP a lot of us ITT are barred lawyers and I think we now have an ethical duty to report you to your state bar. Can you PM us your contact info when you have a minute


Good catch:

Rule 8.3 Reporting Professional Misconduct

(a) A lawyer who knows that another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer's honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects, shall inform the appropriate professional authority.


Looks like we only have to report actual lawyers so OP's good

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Re: OK to state "Corporate Counsel" of this startup on my resume?

Postby elendinel » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:54 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:



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