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Dogs in the office?

Postby Branch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:53 am

I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby RaceJudicata » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:57 am

Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)


I say go for it. Most firms won't think this is a big deal at all.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Branch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:06 am

...has anyone seen colleagues with their dogs?

(to be fair, I've worked with Senators and Senate staff that bring their dogs, and it makes the place so much more tolerable)
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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby JGMotorsport » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:07 am

Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)

I was a law clerk at a small estate planning/tax boutique before law school. We had an office dog. I miss that job.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Branch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:07 am

JGMotorsport wrote:I was a law clerk at a small estate planning/tax boutique before law school. We had an office dog. I miss that job.


...the coworkers that didn't bring dogs loved it the most. They got all the affection with none of the responsibility!

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)

Not mocking, but... eh, I'm doubtful it would fly in most places.

I have a dog walker and sometimes take my dog to a nearby doggy daycare. He fucking loves it. Only issue with that is pickup time is at 7, so i have to be certain of my schedule that day.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby RaceJudicata » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:35 am

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Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)

Not mocking, but... eh, I'm doubtful it would fly in most places.

I have a dog walker and sometimes take my dog to a nearby doggy daycare. He fucking loves it. Only issue with that is pickup time is at 7, so i have to be certain of my schedule that day.


Idk if feasible/available where you live, but in my city there are doggy daycares where they will drop the dog off, have a key (like a walker) and can drop dog off if you are unable to pick up on time.

It is awesome, and our pup loves it (read: comes home exhausted).

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Branch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:47 am

RaceJudicata wrote:
Idk if feasible/available where you live, but in my city there are doggy daycares where they will drop the dog off, have a key (like a walker) and can drop dog off if you are unable to pick up on time.

It is awesome, and our pup loves it (read: comes home exhausted).


Yeah I did this when she was younger and I had a job further from home. She's old and very large (breed, not fat. Don't call her fat - she can hear you!), she tends to just want to sit on you or your feet all day, which is why having her at work was super easy.

I've brought her to social events with other SAs and she's popular, so maybe I can negotiate that she makes all your incoming workers happy and is free, so why not?

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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RaceJudicata wrote:
Idk if feasible/available where you live, but in my city there are doggy daycares where they will drop the dog off, have a key (like a walker) and can drop dog off if you are unable to pick up on time.

It is awesome, and our pup loves it (read: comes home exhausted).


Yeah I did this when she was younger and I had a job further from home. She's old and very large (breed, not fat. Don't call her fat - she can hear you!), she tends to just want to sit on you or your feet all day, which is why having her at work was super easy.

I've brought her to social events with other SAs and she's popular, so maybe I can negotiate that she makes all your incoming workers happy and is free, so why not?

I will say - my doggy daycare has a "lounge" room full of racecar beds and shit - where older dogs just lay around all day. So there are still options.

Good luck though - I couldn't work with my dog because he never stops whining and wants to play all of the time.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Branch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:03 am

Anonymous User wrote:I will say - my doggy daycare has a "lounge" room full of racecar beds and shit - where older dogs just lay around all day. So there are still options.

Good luck though - I couldn't work with my dog because he never stops whining and wants to play all of the time.


wow that sounds like a place I want to go while she goes to work.
I'll look in to it - what city, if I might ask...? or region?

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby favabeansoup » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:30 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)


I say go for it. Most firms won't think this is a big deal at all.


I don't think this is true. I don't know any firm in my city that lets people bring dogs into the office. Some partners bring dogs in on weekends.

OP, vast majority of people I know in biglaw with dogs either have a dog walker come few times or they do doggy day care(more expensive).

I've also found that it is a great excuse to leave early! I got a recommendation for a daycare place from a partner during my SA, but they require pickups by 7:30. (Dogs territorial or I would have done walker). Functionally that means I'm never in the office past 7 absent crazy circumstances, and no one has batted an eye. They know I always just work from home later if anything else comes up.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Mullens » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:54 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
Branch wrote:I know this is ridiculous, but....
My previous job was pet friendly. I brought my dog every day and now, she's older. She's adapted ok to life as a student and I'm an SA, she's moved with me. But working FT at big law would be different. Being gone all day for a huge chunk seems cruel when she's so used to being with me. I have a dog walker while I'm an SA.
Just curious if there are any firms that allow you to bring dogs? Or how any of you have handled the shift when you have a dog since before you decided on school?

(Let the mocking begin!)


I say go for it. Most firms won't think this is a big deal at all.


This post is clearly trolling, OP. I'm only pointing this out because you seem sincere in your belief that this might be okay. It's not. Don't ask your firm. Even asking will come off as incredibly naive. There are some smaller law offices that are dog friendly. Your firm is not one of those offices and you know that because no one brings their dog with them to work.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby acg » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:54 pm

What about bringing your dog in on the weekend? Associate at NYC V100 and I've been thinking about it but have never done it.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

This is something I am very concious of and I would honestly hope that someone would let me know this if they are around my dog. I take her to school with me on the weekends. And I'm careful to keep her from going up to people in my neighborhood when we are walking. It's a very poor area and she's a good dog so I don't use a leash. I've also taught her to sit when she approaches someone new rather than jump. Shes only 43 lbs, which is small for me, but I also know a lot of ppl have never had a dog over 10.
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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby IExistedOnceBefore » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:17 pm

IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

This is something I am very concious of and I would honestly hope that someone would let me know this if they are around my dog. I take her to school with me on the weekends. And I'm careful to keep her from going up to people in my neighborhood when we are walking. It's a very poor area and she's a good dog so I don't use a leash. I've also taught her to sit when she approaches someone new rather than jump. Shes only 43 lbs, which is small for me, but I also know a lot of ppl have never had a dog over 10.


I'm going to tell you from personal experience no one is going to let you know. Especially if you aren't using a leash. Leashes are good because it prevents the dog from unexpectedly going up to people. How would they get near you to tell you? The fact that the strange dog is approaching a person without a leash is enough to send some people into a panic attack. Not to be rude but if you take your dog unleashed to school without regard for others, I'm going to assume you won't listen if I tell you my allergies or concerns. So I won't bother.

Lots of dog owners like to tell people with fears or allergies their dogs are different. Or they'll make their dog jump on the person who is afraid. Or they'll mock them because they don't understand it. Better to live life without putting yourself in the way of dogs than endure the social ostracism. People are really shitty and unfortunately the action of the shitty is what people base their experience on.
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Re: Dogs in the office?

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IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

This is something I am very concious of and I would honestly hope that someone would let me know this if they are around my dog. I take her to school with me on the weekends. And I'm careful to keep her from going up to people in my neighborhood when we are walking. It's a very poor area and she's a good dog so I don't use a leash. I've also taught her to sit when she approaches someone new rather than jump. Shes only 43 lbs, which is small for me, but I also know a lot of ppl have never had a dog over 10.


I'm going to tell you from personal experience no one is going to let you know. Especially if you aren't using a leash. Leashes are good because it prevents the dog from unexpectedly going up to people. How would they get near you to tell you? The fact that the strange dog is approaching a person without a leash is enough to send some people into a panic attack.

Lots of dog owners like to tell people with fears or allergies their dogs are different. Or they'll make their dog jump on the person who is afraid. Or they'll mock them because they don't understand it. Better to live life without putting yourself in the way of dogs than endure the social ostracism. People are really shitty and unfortunately the action of the shitty is what people base their experience on.

If you're in an enclosed space you'd have no other option. I'm not going to leash my dog in an enclosed room.

And when I'm walking her she is not allowed to go up to people unexpectedly. They have to show some kind of interest before I would let that happen. And even then she probably doesn't care enough about you to come up to you.
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Re: Dogs in the office?

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IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

This is something I am very concious of and I would honestly hope that someone would let me know this if they are around my dog. I take her to school with me on the weekends. And I'm careful to keep her from going up to people in my neighborhood when we are walking. It's a very poor area and she's a good dog so I don't use a leash. I've also taught her to sit when she approaches someone new rather than jump. Shes only 43 lbs, which is small for me, but I also know a lot of ppl have never had a dog over 10.


I'm going to tell you from personal experience no one is going to let you know. Especially if you aren't using a leash. Leashes are good because it prevents the dog from unexpectedly going up to people. How would they get near you to tell you? The fact that the strange dog is approaching a person without a leash is enough to send some people into a panic attack.

Lots of dog owners like to tell people with fears or allergies their dogs are different. Or they'll make their dog jump on the person who is afraid. Or they'll mock them because they don't understand it. Better to live life without putting yourself in the way of dogs than endure the social ostracism. People are really shitty and unfortunately the action of the shitty is what people base their experience on.

If you're in an enclosed space you'd have no other option. I'm not going to leash my dog in an enclosed room.

And when I'm walking her she is not allowed to go up to people unexpectedly. They have to show some kind of interest before I would let that happen. And even then she probably doesn't care enough about you to come up to you.


Ah see. And here's the issue. In an enclosed space your dog wins over me. You're not going to leash her. That's where people don't tell you. It's rude and inconsiderate.

If it's in your house? Of course not. It's yours and pups house. I would never impose like that.

But in an elevator or an office? If someone gets hives from dog contact or has a panic attack because you won't leash your dog and you won't even consider it? Why would they waste their breathe telling you. There is another option. Not associating with you. And then you lose my business as well.

Also just so you know. Most public areas have leash laws. I would double check yours.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

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IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
IsThisForReal wrote:
IExistedOnceBefore wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just a gentle reminder that not every co worker or every client is going to like dogs. They may just not tell you because it's something that will get them mocked or ostracized. They may be allergic or uncomfortable around dogs (or cats). For this reason I'm not a huge fan of pets in the office, purely because most owners don't even think about the fact that there could be someone uncomfortable or unable to be around their dog. Service animals are different, and in atmospheres were it's close knit startup kind of places can be different as well.

A law firm is not the acceptable place.



Thank you. I am genuinely terrified of dogs. I would not admit it though because it comes off as juvenile to most people.


Above anon is me. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about it.

This is something I am very concious of and I would honestly hope that someone would let me know this if they are around my dog. I take her to school with me on the weekends. And I'm careful to keep her from going up to people in my neighborhood when we are walking. It's a very poor area and she's a good dog so I don't use a leash. I've also taught her to sit when she approaches someone new rather than jump. Shes only 43 lbs, which is small for me, but I also know a lot of ppl have never had a dog over 10.


I'm going to tell you from personal experience no one is going to let you know. Especially if you aren't using a leash. Leashes are good because it prevents the dog from unexpectedly going up to people. How would they get near you to tell you? The fact that the strange dog is approaching a person without a leash is enough to send some people into a panic attack.

Lots of dog owners like to tell people with fears or allergies their dogs are different. Or they'll make their dog jump on the person who is afraid. Or they'll mock them because they don't understand it. Better to live life without putting yourself in the way of dogs than endure the social ostracism. People are really shitty and unfortunately the action of the shitty is what people base their experience on.

If you're in an enclosed space you'd have no other option. I'm not going to leash my dog in an enclosed room.

And when I'm walking her she is not allowed to go up to people unexpectedly. They have to show some kind of interest before I would let that happen. And even then she probably doesn't care enough about you to come up to you.


Ah see. And here's the issue. In an enclosed space your dog wins over me. You're not going to leash her. That's where people don't tell you. It's rude and inconsiderate.

If it's in your house? Of course not. It's yours and pups house. I would never impose like that.

But in an elevator or an office? If someone gets hives from dog contact or has a panic attack because you won't leash your dog and you won't even consider it? Why would they waste their breathe telling you. There is another option. Not associating with you. And then you lose my business as well.

Also just so you know. Most public areas have leash laws. I would double check yours.

They refuse the pick up my recycling or the strays in my neighborhood. No leash law that may exist is going to be enforced on me.

And no she doesn't win. She either doesn't come with me or I find a way to make her enclosed space smaller so she doesn't affect you. You keep assuming I'm an asshole.
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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby h2go » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:32 pm

Biglaw in NorCal. People regularly bring their dogs in 2-3 days a week. It's only like a handful 2-3 in an office of ~60. Dog just hangs out in office.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby IsThisForReal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:40 pm

To be absolutely clear, she is leashed if I'm at a bar or something. But not if she's chilling with me at my desk for hours.
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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby Bluem_11 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:45 pm

May help you become partner TBH.

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Re: Dogs in the office?

Postby lawgirl111 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:56 pm

This thread has fully enforced my instinct not to trust people who don't like dogs.



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