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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firm?
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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:31 am

Has anyone heard from Morgan Lewis post-CB?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firms?


No.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firms?


No.


When were your callbacks?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:09 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firms?


No.


When were your callbacks?

A couple of weeks ago. Contact the recruiter to know if you are still being considered.
When were yours?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:11 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firms?


No.


When were your callbacks?

A couple of weeks ago. Contact the recruiter to know if you are still being considered.
When were yours?


Different anon. What should I mention in the email to the recruiter? Do I say I still remain interested?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Sadden NY-Banking screener yesterday, got invited to CB today. Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
MOFO NY-Capital Markets 4 "initial interviews" next week. (Not sure if a CB or a 2 hour series of screeners.) Applied 7/31 via email to the recruiter.
Around 25% at lower T14. 2L SA at a V10 w/ offer, changing markets and practice area but not necessarily interested in "trading up" according to vault ranking.


What was your Skadden screener like? Was it like 2L screeners?


Have you heard back from either firms?


No.


When were your callbacks?

A couple of weeks ago. Contact the recruiter to know if you are still being considered.
When were yours?


Different anon. What should I mention in the email to the recruiter? Do I say I still remain interested?

Yes, ask about the status of your app and what the timeframe for getting an answer is.
Also, when were your CBs?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:57 am

any one hear back from PW post-callback? It's been a week!

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:23 pm

Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.



How can we PM an annon post?

Also thank you for your story

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Can you tell us where in the vault rankings you landed (just to see if it's the larger firms that are willing to hire 3L's)? Also, did you massmail or did you send your application materials to firms that posted on symplicity or that you knew had openings? Finally, did you have a prestigious 2L summer internship, or just a legal related work experience? Thanks, and glad it worked out for you.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.



How can we PM an annon post?

Also thank you for your story


I would prefer to not out myself, as my story would be very obviously identifying to anyone at my firm. For that reason, if interested, just quote this post with your user and I can PM you to elaborate

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Can you tell us where in the vault rankings you landed (just to see if it's the larger firms that are willing to hire 3L's)? Also, did you massmail or did you send your application materials to firms that posted on symplicity or that you knew had openings? Finally, did you have a prestigious 2L summer internship, or just a legal related work experience? Thanks, and glad it worked out for you.


This firm is more of a specialty shop focusing on my practice area (I don't want to say boutique, as we are upward of 250 attorneys), so not vault ranked but very highly regarded on Chambers and market-paying. I got the position by mass mailing. They were advertising an opening for a mid-level associate and I just took my shot and applied and they decided they would prefer to hire me for the next year instead.

Nothing prestigious 2L summer, I was at a regional midsize firm doing mostly uninteresting and uninspiring work in a completely different market (where I went to school).

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Hi I'd be interested in more info on how it worked out for you, thanks so much.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Hellosunflowers79 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:51 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Can you tell us where in the vault rankings you landed (just to see if it's the larger firms that are willing to hire 3L's)? Also, did you massmail or did you send your application materials to firms that posted on symplicity or that you knew had openings? Finally, did you have a prestigious 2L summer internship, or just a legal related work experience? Thanks, and glad it worked out for you.



Hi I'd be interested in how it worked out for you. COuld you PM me please?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:03 am

Someone at my school got a Skadden NY offer.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:35 pm

debevoise ding today. applied late july/early august

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Someone at my school got a Skadden NY offer.



Would you mind stating if you are in a t10?
Also if you feel comfortable any information about this persons background (i.e. Just trading up or struck out)

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Can you tell us where in the vault rankings you landed (just to see if it's the larger firms that are willing to hire 3L's)? Also, did you massmail or did you send your application materials to firms that posted on symplicity or that you knew had openings? Finally, did you have a prestigious 2L summer internship, or just a legal related work experience? Thanks, and glad it worked out for you.


This firm is more of a specialty shop focusing on my practice area (I don't want to say boutique, as we are upward of 250 attorneys), so not vault ranked but very highly regarded on Chambers and market-paying. I got the position by mass mailing. They were advertising an opening for a mid-level associate and I just took my shot and applied and they decided they would prefer to hire me for the next year instead.

Nothing prestigious 2L summer, I was at a regional midsize firm doing mostly uninteresting and uninspiring work in a completely different market (where I went to school).


Thanks. When you MM, did you send your materials to a recruiter, hiring partner, partner alumn, or associate?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Wild Card » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:debevoise ding today. applied late july/early august


Seconded.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Someone at my school got a Skadden NY offer.


Do you know what group this is for?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:22 pm

Has anyone received an offer from Skadden or PW?

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:56 am

Morgan Lewis (NY) M&A screener invitation today. Applied over a month ago via website.

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Re: 3L OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hey guys I'm someone who will be doing the 3L OCI 2018 and I understand there is a great amount of difficulty and some would say next to impossible.

That being said people who have been successful this year (those who got offers and also those of you who got callbacks) would you mind sharing your story a little bit?

Perhaps factors such as which law school (vague ranking such as t10, t20 etc is fine), your GPA (if you don't mind or a range if you prefer), and perhaps why you believe you didn't get it through 2L OCI?

I'm not seeking to shame or make anyone feel bad I just want stories to have an idea of "those who made it why were they originally there and how did they do it"

Thank you guys for your time


Not directly responsive, but I'm a first-year who just started after not having a 2L SA and I got hired in January of 3L. I think for me, the most important thing was narrowly-tailoring my resume/cover letter for my practice area of interest. You have to realize that it's a different ballgame than 2L and some luck definitely comes into play, but for 2L SAs firms are hiring for basically everything so they care much less. In 3L, firms are hiring for specific practice areas and you have to come across as the best candidate for that group. You want your resume to scream dedication to that practice area if you want to have any success at all. Networking also plays a much more sizeable role as a 3L and certainly helped me.

I went to a T20 and finished top third, but when I was interviewing for 2L I was between median and top third. I do think that played a factor in my not getting hired out of the gate, but my GPA/school combo when I was ultimately hired wasn't exactly top of the ladder either compared to some here.

I don't want to out myself, but if anyone wants more info on how it worked out for me I can PM.


Can you tell us where in the vault rankings you landed (just to see if it's the larger firms that are willing to hire 3L's)? Also, did you massmail or did you send your application materials to firms that posted on symplicity or that you knew had openings? Finally, did you have a prestigious 2L summer internship, or just a legal related work experience? Thanks, and glad it worked out for you.


This firm is more of a specialty shop focusing on my practice area (I don't want to say boutique, as we are upward of 250 attorneys), so not vault ranked but very highly regarded on Chambers and market-paying. I got the position by mass mailing. They were advertising an opening for a mid-level associate and I just took my shot and applied and they decided they would prefer to hire me for the next year instead.

Nothing prestigious 2L summer, I was at a regional midsize firm doing mostly uninteresting and uninspiring work in a completely different market (where I went to school).


Thanks. When you MM, did you send your materials to a recruiter, hiring partner, partner alumn, or associate?


Applied directly through recruiting




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