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ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Nebby » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:49 pm

What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:51 pm

If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby kellyfrost » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:56 pm

I don't want to name any names, but their email address ends in "@yahoo.com"
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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby SmokeytheBear » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:00 pm

I'll say what we're all thinking.

Kirkland.

Kirkland even agrees.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby clshopeful » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:12 pm

firm-wide generalization based off interaction with 1, 2, 3, or 4 attorneys.. cool...

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Nebby » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:20 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby gaddockteeg » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:54 pm

Completely anecdotal and I'm certain this is the exception and not the rule: But I have been really unimpressed with the SullCrom lit associates that I've crossed paths with.

I've worked extensively with 3 of them and 2 were both pretty bad. 1 was a lateral to my firm and didn't last more than a year before getting asked to leave. Other was co-counsel at another v5 firm but had lateraled after 4 years at SullCrom. Both had brilliant resumes (federal clerks in competitive districts, CCN+LR, etc) but both were still terrible writers, blew deadlines, etc.

Third S&C guy Ive worked with is still at my firm and he's great and has a shot at partner.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:59 pm

Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Hahahahahahahaha you poor deluded soul.

(By which I mean if you think they're bad opposing counsel you haven't encountered bad opposing counsel yet.)

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Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:04 pm

Munger. by a mile.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby hiima3L » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:07 pm

99% of the time: "Law Offices of [Name]."

I can think of exactly one exception - some dude who is The Guy for his niche.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby hiima3L » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:08 pm

Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby jingosaur » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:11 pm

Guy with email [firstname][lastname]law@hotmail.com

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby los blancos » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:16 pm

A somewhat well-regarded Chicago lit boutique (that got its ass kicked), including a name partner who was kind of a self-righteous prick.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby clshopeful » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 pm

hiima3L wrote:
Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.


This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby sms18 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:49 pm

Nebby wrote:What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories


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Postby 84651846190 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:15 pm

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Postby LurkerTurnedMember » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:20 pm

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Nebby » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 pm

clshopeful wrote:
hiima3L wrote:
Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

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Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.


This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.

This thread was inspired by a colleagues story about a senior at an opposing firm that would legit yell at our counsel on the phone. It sounded absurd

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby cookiejar1 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:32 pm

Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Mullens » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:36 pm

cookiejar1 wrote:Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/


Apparently this guy is a partner at McDermott in Chicago now. I'm sure he's a treat to work for.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby acr » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:38 pm

Not my story, but heard from a practicing friend that he's had some pretty bad experiences with Jones Day. Said that opposing counsel at Jones Day once yelled at my friend's team over the phone and told one of the attorneys he went to a "third rate law school."

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby jkpolk » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:54 pm

ExBiglawAssociate wrote:Quinn

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby foregetaboutdre » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:00 am

[quote="cookiejar1"]Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/[/ Interesting VM. At first I thought he was yelling at some small firm guy or something, but he was yelling at a NYC Latham associate. Yikes

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:21 am

Kirkland is so monolithically dickish that I assume they have some sort of asshole sleep conditioning program there.

Not a liTTTigator but I hear the same thing about Quinn from coworkers.

As far as incompetent, it would be a much shorter list to have the ones who WERE mostly competent.

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Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel

Postby Rahviveh » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:45 am

One of the few good things about being a lawyer is being a dick to opposing counsel.



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